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Hey all, how's it going?

This weekend, in my area, Triumph had a Demo Ride Event. I thought I'd be slated for the America or Speedmaster, and the Speedmaster was GREAT. However, I got to ride the Thunderbird.

Let me tell you...HEAVEN! That bike was great. However...

...on my way back, she broke down. Turned out that a vacumm hose came loose, and it wouldn't stay running. So after sitting there waiting for the folks to come and get me, one of the helpers was someone on one of the factory Storms.

He figured, because I'm still a novice rider, that he could ride the handicapped Thunderbird back...if I was willing to ride the Storm.

With much trepidation I did. God bless America, that bike was bad. Got ALL kinds of looks and you could feel the torque difference between it and the regular Thunderbird.

So...is there anyone here wishing they had opted for the Storm from the "Get-Go."

Wondering what I shoudl do...because a "Thunderbird" Storm or Not, is my next bike.

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The storm is the same bike except that most of the regular Tbirds are 1600. But you could get the regular Tbird in 1700 too in some of the models, tho i'm not sue if you still can. The phamtom red or blue ones came as 1700 and if you can find one. (not sure but i think they were a limited run) Or you can get a regular Tbird and have the dealer install the 1700 kit on delivery. The main reason to get the storm is the different cosmetics if thats your cup of tea.

On a side note, it may be wrong but i got it from a good source that the kit has hotter cams and is therefore stronger than the factory installed 1700 models. That comes from a triumph mechanic who is more likely to know this then any other, but still i only have his word so it's not 100%. If true tho it would make the after sale kit the better way to go if you want max power.
 

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Do I wish I had chosen the Storm?...No, I don't like the flat black look. Do I wish I had the 1700 engine?...Absolutely!
 

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I've had my 1600 for 7 months and still love it. It has a lot of power and torque and can smoke pretty much anything out there once off the line and still deliver 40+ mpg. Maybe in a year or two if I feel like I need more umphh I will lay down a couple grand and put the 1700 in, but I don't feel any need for that at this time. The 1600 is a really nice mill. There will always be something bigger, faster, louder no matter what you have.
 

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More power is great and I'll consider this when I can ride beyond the limits of the 1600.
Thats something i hear a lot, but theres much more to it then speed. You really don't have to ride any faster/quicker than you do now to enjoy and appreciate the 1700 more. This may be hard to understand till you have the 1700, but it actually makes riding slower more enjoyable ! It's in the way you feel the power even when you aren't using it. I don't know how else to explain it other than to say that my 1700 to me at least is a much more fun ride than it was as a 1600. And yet i rarely accelerate faster than i used to when it was a 1600. When you do it's a real blast. But just riding it as sedately as you ride your 1600 is much more fun just because of the way it responds. When you get yours BB'd you'll understand. I could never go back.
 

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As Daz says it isnt just about the power. It responds better , pulls harder , sounds deeper and rides better.

And the Storm is just a 1700 TBird with some extra black bits so if you like the black bits go for it . The bars are the wide ones and erm thats about it . Everthing else is the same . Unless Daz's mate is correct and if thats so its slower too. Lol.
 

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I haven't ridden a regular Tbird, but I rode the Storm Saturday, I was really surprised at the power and throttle response, it felt like it would wheelie if I got on it too hard. The only thing I wasn't real fond of were the forward controls, which my buddies have all been saying I should install on my Harley, I guess I like my feet under me. I only did 20 miles, so I am keeping an open mind for the moment. Mulling selling my Harley for a down payment on the Storm, I liked it that much.
 

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At the rate that Triumph is going they keep getting better and better with the Tbird..so What i am doing is going to play wait and see what happens in the next couple of years. :D Wanna know what Triumph has in the works for 2012 :p
 

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The only thing I wasn't real fond of were the forward controls, which my buddies have all been saying I should install on my Harley, I guess I like my feet under me. I only did 20 miles, so I am keeping an open mind for the moment.
Good thinking. My first feet forward bike was a speedmaster, and while it felt weird at first, like anything else you get 110% used to it. I say 110% because not only did i get totally used to it, but now wouldn't want to go back to mid pegs ! You may not feel quite the same, but you WILL get 100% used to it. It's very comfortable and once you are used to them you also will find the position just fine for hitting the twisties hard. Mid or rear pegs may be the ultimate for that, but you'd never know it once you are used to forward pegs.
 

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More power is great and I'll consider this when I can ride beyond the limits of the 1600.
I agree with you. I'm most likely going to increase power on the 1600 via exhaust and intake (budget permitting). I haven't completely settled on getting rid of the cat box, but it's most likely coming out. The UNI air filter seems to get the performance nod from the folks that have an opinion. These two options come to about $800 on the high end.

One of the beauties of the 'Bird is that if and when I go to the BB kit the previously installed goodies get to stay in place and make the most of the upgrade.

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dazco,
You should have that BB kit broken in by now. How is your miles per gallon as compared to the 1600?
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Do you really want to know before you get it? Ok, you asked. :D It's [email protected] I used to get about 41. I'm not sure yet what i'm getting now, but i have tested a few tanks and it varied from 31 to 37. But i've been messing around with the regular triumph map and a couple others made by someone who had his bike dyno tuned with tuneecu. So i've yet to determine if the worse of my recent tests were due to those maps. I think you can't really get a true reading till the bike has adapted, and after loading a map i think it takes 50 miles or so, therefore none of those tests may be real accurate because i've been switching maps about every 2/3 tank. I can however say that it's a pretty sure thing i lost at least 3 or 4 MPG. Very possibly more like 5-6.

Now ask me if it's worth it !!! I think you know the answer. ;)
 

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Thats something i hear a lot, but theres much more to it then speed. You really don't have to ride any faster/quicker than you do now to enjoy and appreciate the 1700 more. This may be hard to understand till you have the 1700, but it actually makes riding slower more enjoyable ! It's in the way you feel the power even when you aren't using it. I don't know how else to explain it other than to say that my 1700 to me at least is a much more fun ride than it was as a 1600. And yet i rarely accelerate faster than i used to when it was a 1600. When you do it's a real blast. But just riding it as sedately as you ride your 1600 is much more fun just because of the way it responds. When you get yours BB'd you'll understand. I could never go back.
dazco you are killing me. Everytime I read your posts I want the BB kit even more. The problem is I just can't afford it right now. :(
 

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Thats something i hear a lot, but theres much more to it then speed. You really don't have to ride any faster/quicker than you do now to enjoy and appreciate the 1700 more. This may be hard to understand till you have the 1700, but it actually makes riding slower more enjoyable ! It's in the way you feel the power even when you aren't using it. I don't know how else to explain it other than to say that my 1700 to me at least is a much more fun ride than it was as a 1600. And yet i rarely accelerate faster than i used to when it was a 1600. When you do it's a real blast. But just riding it as sedately as you ride your 1600 is much more fun just because of the way it responds. When you get yours BB'd you'll understand. I could never go back.
Yea, I understand back in high school I drove a Power Wagon with a 360 ci. then dropped in 440 ci. did'nt drive much faster, well sometimes:D but it was nice to know you could hook up to city hall and drag it from one end of town to the other:D:D
 

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I'm probably in the minority, but I'm perfectly happy with my 1600. It has a bit more power than stock due to the pipe change and re-map. I've ridden the 1700 many times now (including the Storm). I like the 1700 fine, but really don't notice a *huge* difference, certainly not enough to make me desire the 1700.

p.s. glad you enjoyed the "Demo Days" event. I was one of the escort riders for our local dealer's event, also held this past weekend. Search my name and you'll find a review/observation thread on this year's experience (I do it every year)
 

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trust me, it's not as apparent at first. I even posted at that "other" place about it when i first got mine saying i wasn't sure that it was a big diff. But there is. especially when the 1700 also has shorties/filter and remap. You can't fairly compare a 1600 w/TORs to a 1700 with stock pipes. That doesn't give you a real indication of the difference. Take the 1600 on a long freeway cruise at high speeds and you'll be a believer . The 1700 will roll on from speeds like 80-100 so much quicker. The 1600 runs of of steam very quickly as the RPM's increase. the faster you go, the higher RPM's you are at, the bigger the difference between the 2. Thats not to say low end torque isn't better too. It is, and a good bit.
 

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The Storm demo unit I rode a few times this past weekend (see my escort rider thread) had Shorty TORs so I assume it also had the TOR tune. That said, maybe I don't ride aggressively enough to tell the difference. Point and case, my T-Bird has 8400 miles on the OEM shoes and I'll easily get 12-14k out of them. :)

Edit: my fuel mileage is also probably a pretty good indicator of my riding style.

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/patriotdaryl/thunderbird
 

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Maybe, but i can feel the difference even riding sedately. But yeah, i suppose if you ride like that all the time maybe you wouldn't be able to tell much. I dunno.
 

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I haven't ridden a regular Tbird, but I rode the Storm Saturday, I was really surprised at the power and throttle response, it felt like it would wheelie if I got on it too hard. The only thing I wasn't real fond of were the forward controls, which my buddies have all been saying I should install on my Harley, I guess I like my feet under me. I only did 20 miles, so I am keeping an open mind for the moment. Mulling selling my Harley for a down payment on the Storm, I liked it that much.
I didn't like the position on my 1600 either. I don't know how it would look on a Storm but the floorboards sure makes it a more comfortable ride! Personally, I'll take comfort of cool any day/
 
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