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Is it true? I took my bike in for a safety certificate today and the examiner noticed that my rear mud guard was trimmed a bit. He reckoned that its not legal and I could get booked. He showed me an R1 he had there with an aftermarket fender eliminator kit on it, he said the owner got booked and fined $235 for not having a mud guard!

He wrote out the certificate anyway, that's the main thing...

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Roden do you still have the reflector that was on the stock mudguard (in fact all bikes in Australia) it is about 90mm x 25mm?

If it removed I advise you get a push bike one and mount it or you will be booked and get a fine.

It is the most common ticket for folks who shorten the rear mudguard.

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Hi DaveM, the reflector is a part of the tail light lens, it never had a separate one, unless someone removed it before me.

The bike's registered, so happy days...

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Hi DaveM, the reflector is a part of the tail light lens, it never had a separate one, unless someone removed it before me.

The bike's registered, so happy days...

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Roden
No worries on the 955 and a lot of sports bikes it is separate that's all.

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It's not the reflector that is the only source of trouble (even though it's compulsory), it's also the length lf the guard....

If my memory serves me correctly, ADRs (Australian Design rules) require that the guard extend something like halfway down the height of the tyre which is why you'll get pinged by the Mobile Tax Collectors :policeman: in their SPBs (Shiny Piggy Banks) or the Rego Nazis for trimming your guard.

Another example is how road registerable (ADR compliant) enduro bikes such as the KTM EXCs and the Yamaha WRs come out of the box with guard extenders that damn near touch the ground and make the bike look like an elephant on Viagra.... Oh, and they also have the reflector. :D

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It's not the reflector that is the only source of trouble (even though it's compulsory), it's also the length lf the guard....

If my memory serves me correctly, ADRs (Australian Design rules) require that the guard extend something like halfway down the height of the tyre which is why you'll get pinged by the Mobile Tax Collectors :policeman:in their SPBs (Shiny Piggy Banks) or the Rego Nazis for trimming your guard.

Road registerable enduro bikes such as the KTM EXCs and the Yamaha WRs come out of the box with guard extenders that damn near touch the ground and make the bike look like an elephant on Viagra.... Oh, and they also have the reflector :D

Muz
Correct Muz,

and I know of friends who have had trouble with the tubular rego label holders as well.

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I can't see the point of a reflector when the lights are hard-wired on here in Aus.
FWIW Our model bike Roden's, DaveM's and mine don't have the hardwired lights. The reflector is for at night when parking on the street so that you can see the bike (or at least the reflector) on the side of the road :rolleyes:

I can sort of understand why they don't like trimmed guards as it does allow allot of stones to flick up but I'd trim mine (if I could be bothered) as they look much better.
 

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I'll have to visit the pushbike shop for a reflector then...

I never thought about the stones being flicked up, good call... but there's no way I'm putting that ugly mutha plastic back on.

I suppose they won't be happy until we're all driving a bog standard Prius. :rolleyes: I wonder if you can get a 'sport tune' for one of them?:D
 

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Prius sport-tune

...Prius. :rolleyes: I wonder if you can get a 'sport tune' for one of them?:D
That would be the 3-phase option Mick!

So, we need the small reflector to stop someone running into a parked bike, but the road-designers/approvers are happy for us to get mashed on the cheese-grater wire ropes, or the sudden-stop flat plates they erect at the end of these and the Armcos.

Guess we are expendable because we choose to ride a bike for the factors we all love and hold dear.

...got a bit off topic there!

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I always had a totally different (albeit unfounded) idea of Australia. The more I hear, the more it seems they jack the citizens around for revenue and fun. I doubt there's a bike in PA with a stock fender or reflectors that isn't still on the showroom floor. They let the cruiser guys get away with everything here including drag pipes, no turn signals, and plates which can't be seen.

About the issue of stones being flicked- are cars and small trucks required to have flaps reaching the road surface? Tires with aggressive tread are more likely to throw debris. I've ridden plenty of miles on gravel with other riders using street tires and can't recall stones being thrown. Dirtbike tires will kick stuff up though.
 

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The more I hear, the more it seems they jack the citizens around for revenue and fun.
Don't let our whinning put you off Pelon, this is a big place with few people and even less coppers (except in the cities). The revenue raising is a recent phenomenon brought about by incompetent local governments who are influenced by do-gooders. I'm sure we aren't the only place in the world in that situation. Waaay off topic now!!
 

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About the issue of stones being flicked- are cars and small trucks required to have flaps reaching the road surface? Tires with aggressive tread are more likely to throw debris. I've ridden plenty of miles on gravel with other riders using street tires and can't recall stones being thrown. Dirtbike tires will kick stuff up though.
Actually Pelon if you run race tyres or very sticky sports tyres on a road bike, ride hard on a hot day and you will be firing plenty of projectiles out the rear even with sa stock guard.

I have had many other riders behind me complain about this phenomenon, they now know to ride not directly behind me or they will get peppered.:p

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I have had many other riders behind me complain about this phenomenon,
One of them was me!! :D

A followed a Rocket 3 up the mountain a couple of weekends ago and he was really hammering. He got me with a few rocks before I overtook him and he had the stock guard.

Mick's right pelon. Our country is so good that we have to whine about something. :)
 
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