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I have a 2016 T120 and find the steering a bit slow / less responsive compared to my old Honda Magna cruiser. The Honda has much wider bars. Will wider bars make the bike more responsive? What is the widest you can go without messing with the cables and wires? I’d also like some risers to sit a little more upright but maybe with wider bars this won’t be needed. I saw a thread where some guys just put washers on the stock risers to gain some height. Again, I don’t want to mess with the cables or wires. Thanks!
 

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I am also interested in adding some risers to my T120 but not so much as I have to change out any cables as well. I'm hoping this will relieve some fatigue that I'm experiencing.
 

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I have a 2016 T120 and find the steering a bit slow / less responsive compared to my old Honda Magna cruiser. The Honda has much wider bars. Will wider bars make the bike more responsive? What is the widest you can go without messing with the cables and wires? I’d also like some risers to sit a little more upright but maybe with wider bars this won’t be needed. I saw a thread where some guys just put washers on the stock risers to gain some height. Again, I don’t want to mess with the cables or wires. Thanks!
What tires do you have on the bike? The stock Pirellis tend to be a little slow compared to Avons or others. It has to do with the tread profile. Wider bars will not be good with the Pirellis incidentally.
 

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What ETC120 said. I had to steer my bike with the stock Pirellis on it. After I put the Avon Spirit STs on it I can basically steer it via mind control.

I think you'll find that longer bars will be counterproductive if faster steering is your goal. Geometry dictates that longer bars will require more bar movement to do the same thing. Leverage will make it easier to turn, but the added radius from the pivot point to grips will mean the grips will have to move farther to accomplish the same turn.

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I changed out the clamp with a pair from British Customs. They make a spacer for them to provide some rise. In my case, I also added a pair of 2" Roxx risers. Required a longer clutch cable, but it helped.
 

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Actually, shorter handle bars will make it easier, not longer ones. Not because of any geometry of the bars, but it will change your riding position, making you have more direct input to the handle bars.

If your press on the handle bar is mostly horizontal, then you will get better steering input. If it is more vertical, the bike will seem to not be responding well.

Try leaning your head and shoulders down and into the side in which you are turning more than normal. If this makes the steering seem easier, then it is the direction in which you are pressing the bar that is the problem. Then, you can think about changing the ergonomics of the bike in a way that allows you to give a more horizontal input into the bar in your comfortable riding stance.

If you find that you are pressing downward more than you are pressing outward on the bars, then handle bar risers may improve your situation.
 

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I made up some 20mm risers , no problems with cables etc,
much more comfortable for my lower back problem,
they'll look much better when i get around to painting them
Did you have any problem finding the longer bolts? I wanted to do something similar to my previous bike, a Scrambler 900, but the bolt heads were the tiny ones (JIS?).
 

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ETC120 and PGR: Yes, I have the stock Pirelli tires. I’ll try those Avons when the Pirellis wear out.

ranger995: Yes, I definitely have to lean into the turn, putting my shoulder and head into it. I guess that means I’m pushing down on the bars, which makes total sense, and a good solution to bring the bars up a bit. I’ve rode cruisers for the last decade and never had to do that. Maybe I just need to get use to the different body position of the Bonny but I will also add some spacers at the handlebar riser to bring the bars up. Hopefully that will make the twisties more effortless and quicker to turn.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!
 

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Did you have any problem finding the longer bolts? I wanted to do something similar to my previous bike, a Scrambler 900, but the bolt heads were the tiny ones (JIS?).
I had no problem with finding suitable bolts , just needed to be 20mm longer than the stock bolts,
There is a difference with how the handlebar clamps are fitted on the T120 and 900 Scrambler,
on the scrambler the bolt passes through the lower handlebar clamp then through the upper yoke with a nut screwed on the underside of the top yoke,
The T120 the bolt passes through the upper yoke from the underside and screws into the lower handlebar clamp
 

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ETC120 and PGR: Yes, I have the stock Pirelli tires. I’ll try those Avons when the Pirellis wear out.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!
Don’t wait. The Pirellis seriously compromise handling. I waited for my front to wear out before switching to Continental Road Attack3s. They completely transformed the bike. I was stunned at the difference. This may be all you need to fix any handling issues. Fatigue is of course another problem.
 

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ETC120 and PGR: Yes, I have the stock Pirelli tires. I’ll try those Avons when the Pirellis wear out.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!
Don’t wait. The Pirellis seriously compromise handling. I waited for my front to wear out before switching to Continental Road Attack3s. They completely transformed the bike. I was stunned at the difference. This may be all you need to fix any handling issues. Fatigue is of course another problem.
So you’re saying that swapping just the front tire is a huge improvement, even with leaving the rear tire stock?
 

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So you’re saying that swapping just the front tire is a huge improvement, even with leaving the rear tire stock?
I think you might be reading stuff into his post that's not there. I didn't write it, though, so I could be wrong.

Personally, I don't think I'd want an OEM Pirelli on the rear after I put one of the suggested upgrade tires on the front. That new tire could give you a sense of confidence that the old tire isn't up to.

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