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I'm looking to upgrade the suspension on a 97 Sprint Sport.

The rear shock is sagging......
I ride as aggresive as the road dictates.
This is not a bar cruiser, it's a 150-300 mile day rider.
And I live near mountains and twisty roads here in the northeastern US.


I see Hagon brand advertised.
What other options ? I don't have money or need for
Ohlins brands. I'm not that rich.


As to the front on my "old" bikes,I've used Progressive with very good result and am happy with them.


Any suggestions ?

[ This message was edited by: 97sprint on 2007-01-06 05:20 ]
 

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In the middle ground for cost is the WP. I just ordered one from Lindemann Engineering for $692. Jim L is very helpfull and does not recommend anything that is not needed. He talked me out of spending extra for the Hydraulic preload as there are several things that are negative about having one, that you don't normally hear. I know this is a significant jump from the hagon but it has high and low speed compression dampening, rebound dampening, infinite preload adjustment, and height adjustment. the big seller from me was all the positive feedback from all that have used it. I searched for months for all the options I could find as Ohlins no longer makes one for our bikes, and this seamed to the best reccommended product. hope this helps!
 

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also I noticed the wes cooley on your bikes that is one neat bike if you still have it. I friend of mine in ohio just showed me that he got an '82 kz1000r eddie lawson replica that a customer came into his shop and asked him if he wanted to buy an old kz, took him over to his house, pealed back a cover and showed him an original elr!! I won't say how much he paid but it was rediculously low, he asked the guy twice if he really wanted to sell it for that and the guy said yes. after he told me I immediately offered him twice what he offered and he just laughed. the bike does not run but is completely original no modifications! I know this as this was my dream bike when I was in high school. I know this sounds like one of those in the barn stories, but this one is for real. now the bike sits in his garage along with his race bikes and his street bikes. I have found some good deals before but this one takes the cake. sorry for hijacking your thread, it is just when I saw the WC replica in your signature it reminded me of this bike. hope the info on the shock helps. also if you have not done so the reccomended addition is to add racetech valves and oil with straght rate springs to the forks. everyone that has done the shock and forks say the bikes are totally different in a god way.
 

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Hi Keith,

With you being in the US, I have a thought. There are 3 names that I have seen as being in 'the top flight':
Ohlins (no longer available for our models);
WP (which I have, and can recommend);
The other name is Penske, and this may be more readily available and affordable to you in the US?

Fyi, my Thunderbird's shock could do with being changed soon and I hope to fit a WP after my good experiences with the Sprint.

Ciao,
Geoff
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Hi Keith,

Sounds like you ride a bit like me....

I have a 11/95 build Sprint and a 1/98 build Sprint Executive (which I just bought with 20,000k's or 12,500 miles on it!! A real 'barn find' owned by two little old gentlemen- one who only rode it on Sundays- and the other who put 300kms on it and left it in the shed due to illness!!).

I spent ages looking around for a new rear shock and also discovered Ohlins no longer make them for our bikes.

I settled on a WP too and can attest to their quality.

They are certainly not cheap (in Australian dollars), but combined with the Racetech springs and Gold valves I put into the front end, the result is very pleasing indeed.

The WP product is great, but their customer service leaves a bit to be desired based on my experience. The guy who fitted it for me is a specialist suspension tuner. That's all he does. And even they were frustrated that is was an almost 5 month process from ordering to riding out of his workshop.

He still recommended WP as the 'duck's guts' and in his opinion, on a par with Ohlins.

Anyway, see my earlier posts in this forum on this topic. The transformation was remarkable to say the least.

I must say, I was very surprised that it took me more than 100,000 km to kill off the original rear shockie, but in it's last few weeks, it started to scare me, so ditch it if it is sagging.

Most people on this site also seem happy with their Hagons, but I wanted a little more fine-tuning.

In my view, the WP was worth it, but then again, I'm the sort of guy who skimps on daily consumables to save up for the things that really matter to me.

As I ride my bike every day and in all seasons (which in my part of Australia means between about 10 degrees C up to 45C and with substandard roads which are particularly bad when wet), SUSPENSION matters to me!!!

Good luck with your search and don't forget to upgrade the front end as well. As a former 'Ducati man', I found the Sprint's suspension 'plush' and disturbingly like a trail bike at first in terms of downward fork travel under braking.

Now, I'm a very happy chappie...

And I also have a 95 Sprint that must be sold due to an expanding family...well- expanding wife- and then expanding family anyway.

The 95 Sprint is still a cracker and ready to ride around Australia tomorrow, so let me know if anyone is interested before I formally put it on the market. I'd feel happier selling it to a fellow enthusiast.

I am happy to arrange shipping overseas, which means if you are buying in Pounds or US dollars, it ain't that bad.

The dreaded sprag clutch was fixed at 100,000 Km and the timing chain replaced at the same time.

I have every service and every receipt for this machine since new.

Anyway, good luck with yours Keith.
 

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Oh yeah,

Whoops, I forgot.....

Here's the important bit.


WP Shock code is Triumph Day.900/1200 94>
Shock length is 322mm + or - 5mm
Preload is 20mm
Comp LS/HS : 9/9
Reb : 9
RC: 0
PO: 5007128
WP website is www.wpsuspension.com

Cheers,

Diz
 

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97Sprint, you may be able to make yourself a lot happier for a lot less than a whole new shock. I was having the same prob with a 95 S3. I took it to Traxxion Dynamics and had them fit a stiffer spring to the rear shock. The '95 S3 had a 675# spring from the factory. They put the shock on the dyno and said that the valving (which unfortuatly couldn't be changed) could handle up to 950# spring. They swapped it for me and with the spring and labor, I was under $200. The rear is still a bit weak for my fat arse, but it is much better!
 

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My '94 Daytona had been fitted with an Ohlins rear shock before I bought it, and I had it re-sprung and setup for my weight & riding style.

In the front end I went with RaceTech gold valves & springs (unbelieveable difference over stock - it defies description).

Overall, the bike went from being a bit ponderous and softly sprung to being very precise, controlled and predictable for either aggressive track riding or long distance touring (900km days)

I too have heard good things about the WP shocks but have no personal experience with them.

The Ohlins rear that fits the T3 bikes is exactly the same model as for '94-'97 Kawasaki ZX9Rs and it may be possible to pick one up used for a reasonable price. They are very inexpensive to have rebuilt & setup.
 
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Hey YYZSKI:

Does that mean ZX9R shocks will fit the T3 bikes, or is it something about the Öhlins part that makes it fit both?

Thanks,
-Kit
 

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On 2007-02-18 00:23, KitNYC wrote:
Hey YYZSKI:

Does that mean ZX9R shocks will fit the T3 bikes, or is it something about the Öhlins part that makes it fit both?

Thanks,
-Kit
"The Ohlins rear that fits the T3 bikes is EXACTLY the same model as for '94-'97 Kawasaki ZX9Rs and it may be possible to pick one up used for a reasonable price. They are very inexpensive to have rebuilt & setup."

I'd say from this it's identical.
 

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On 2007-02-18 00:23, KitNYC wrote:
Hey YYZSKI:

Does that mean ZX9R shocks will fit the T3 bikes, or is it something about the Öhlins part that makes it fit both?

Thanks,
-Kit
I was looking at pics of STOCK ZX9 shocks and it appears that the reservoir on the Kawasaki shock and the battery in a T3 want to occupy the same space. Regarding the after market, a shock with a remote reservoir should not be much of a problem.
 

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Part is an Ohlins 46HRCS which is what they used to spec out for the T3 Triumphs and still spec out for the '94-'97 ZX9Rs.

Interestingly, the only parts that Ohlins shows online for the T3 now are front fork springs, but if you search under Kawi, the 46HRCS will come up
 
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Ah, I see... Google has, unfortunately, enlightened me. 46HRCS isn't actually a part number, it's a type. In Öhlins-speak, that means a shock with a 46mm piston, hose mounted external reservoir, adjustable compression damping, adjustable rebound damping, & a hose mounted hydraulic spring preload adjuster. That type is available for a bunch of bikes from a BMW F650 Dakar to a Honda CBR1100XX. They even offer that type for T-bird Sports.

Oh well, guess I'm back to trying to find a place to rebuild my Speed triple shock. :razz:

Cheers,
-Kit
 

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I wonder if a quick e-mail to Ohlins might help?

They were listing the Triumph specific shocks as of a year ago and I can't imagine that there's much (if any) difference between shocks of the same configuration.

Also, much of the suspension on the T3s is shared with or derived from certain Kawasaki models (forks ZX7, swingarm ZX10) so it would stand to reason that the shock is likely to be a very close to standard part.
 

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On 2007-02-18 19:44, YYZSKI wrote:
Part is an Ohlins 46HRCS which is what they used to spec out for the T3 Triumphs and still spec out for the '94-'97 ZX9Rs.
46HRCS isn't the part number, it is a model number. 46HRCS is just a shock description.

Doing a little cross referencing it looks like the ZX shock might be at least 1/2 inch too long.
 

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I know that this going back to the original discussion over part numbers but I had two sources that thought they could back door an ohlins shock check and they both said that indeed the factory has stopped producing one that fits this bike. there is also the option of penske but L.E. checked and said that they would not produce a shock without having yours to match as they have had problems with mismatching. to paraphrase.
 
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