[CharlieS]

Well, I wrecked my 2000 Sprint ST a little over a week ago. It's a total loss. I'm ok. Helmet and gear did it's job. Got a few bruises and scrapes, but walked away. Exelement jeans from Leather Up did a good job.....thanks for the kneepads.

Anyway.......I'm looking for a replacement. Been scouring Craigslist for Sprints and Daytonas. I'm still not sure which way I want to go. I prefer the 2004 and older Sprints.....I like the rounded shape. Also like the 2001 and older Daytonas and their bodywork. But, I'm leaning toward the 2002 and later 955's. The motor is upgraded, and, quite frankly, it's easier to get a loan on a newer bike. The 2002 and up Daytonas are very nice, but say goodbye to those nostalgic rounded bodies of the earlier models. I've sat upon both the Sprint without the bar risers, (my old one had the risers) and a 2005 Daytona. I can't say I missed the bar risers......both bikes felt pretty good to sit on. I did really like the hardbags on my ST. So, it's really between a Sprint with hardbags, or a Daytona.
What do you guys think?

Thanks......

Charlie

 

[Lazarus Long]

I think what it mostly comes down to, are you a long trip guy or a racer?
That said, nothing's stopping you from getting some hard panniers for a Daytona.

EDIT: To bad about the bike but glad to hear you got out of it without any major injuries, get well soon.

 

[KevyKev]

Damn Charlie-- glad your okay. Where did you go down? I know you just joined up recently and I'm here in the Lou also (St. Louis for all the other members on here!). Hope you find a bike your looking for. I don't know if you have been/talked to them, but Steve at RPM Motorwerks in Belleville is great! Maybe he could dig something up for you?? Steve is the owner and a great guy. There is a guy on one of the local forums that has a Daytona 675 and also a Honda 600rr----he's thinking of selling one of them----don't know if you'd be interested in the 675 (too small for me size-wise).

 

[CharlieS]

Damn Charlie-- glad your okay. Where did you go down? I know you just joined up recently and I'm here in the Lou also (St. Louis for all the other members on here!). Hope you find a bike your looking for. I don't know if you have been/talked to them, but Steve at RPM Motorwerks in Belleville is great! Maybe he could dig something up for you?? Steve is the owner and a great guy. There is a guy on one of the local forums that has a Daytona 675 and also a Honda 600rr----he's thinking of selling one of them----don't know if you'd be interested in the 675 (too small for me size-wise).

I wiped out on 94, a couple of miles west of Defiance. Went for my first real ride after getting orthoscopy on my knee. I guess I was having a little too much fun...came into a turn a little hot, and it turned bad. I'll have to be more careful next time. Steve sold me my bike back in December. If they had an older Sprint or Daytona over there in Belleville, I'd be all over it. I'm pretty sure I want something with the 955. I like the bigger Daytona, and I love the older Sprints. I'm looking at a couple of bikes in other states......but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1101291785.html
This ad ran a couple days ago, but he had it advertised at $200 less, and with only 2200 miles. Well I asked him about it, and he looked it up and said it was an error. So then he posted a new ad and at the higher price. So, I'm still chewing on it a bit.
Most of the bikes I like are so far away!

Charlie

 

[steventhechef]

pm DaveM. He has both the Daytona and the Sprint ST 955i

 

[DaveM]

HI Charlie,

you can still PM me but here I am

I have both a Sprint ST and Daytona 955 both 2004 models.

What exactly do you want to know?

The Sprint is an easier bike to ride and is more comfortable etc.

The Daytona 955 has an extra 30hp and is about 30kgs lighter with fully adjustable suspension.

As stated by Lazerus it really depends what sort of ridng you want to do.

If it's commuting and long trips then the Sprint is the way to go.
If you ride hard and enjoy the lighter bike with more power, more adjustable handling and better brakes and ride in the mountains all day long. Then you want a Daytona.

For a Sports bike the Daytona has plenty of "real world" hp and will take on any other bike in handling and power except for straight line stuff.

The big D is a roomy bike for a litre sports bike but if you are short or have short arms it will be a stretch to the bars.
I personally would not want to ride 500kms straight on the Daytona, it is built for fast riding in the twistie bits but would not be anywhere near as comfy as a Sprint for normal or more sedate riding or long trips.

The Sprint is the brilliant all rounder and the Daytona is the lean mean specialist built for one purpose which is does very very well.

The Sprint has power from 2,000rpm and red lines at 9,500rpm and the Daytona has power starting at 4,000rpm and redlines at 11,500 from memory.

Ask any specific questions you like.

cheers,
DaveM

 

[steventhechef]

or do like Rexxypup has and put a Daytona donk in the Sprint ST

 

[RexxyPup]

Dave - Don't do it!!!

Fairly sure that the redline on the Daytona is 10,500 Dave! No wonder your tyres are shredded!

Having had the 04 ST with the standard engine for 3 years, and now the same chassis with the 05 Daytona engine, I would have to say this. The Sprint was the more relaxed bike to ride fast. As standard, the Daytona engine doesn't feel as quick to pick up unless it is over 6k rpm. There is a hole in the power/torque between 4 and 6k that the ST didn't have. On the other hand, the top end rush of the Daytona engine is totally addictive.

I've bought some SAI blanking plates to remove all that gubbins, and then I shall install the Massive Midrange tune that should take care of the hole!!

Rexx

 

[DaveM]

Fairly sure that the redline on the Daytona is 10,500 Dave! No wonder your tyres are shredded!

Rexx

I don't think so Rexx

Looky here;

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/triumph_daytona_955i_2004.php

Max power 147hp @ 10,700rpm therefore redline would not be at 10,500rpm.

That is my theory until I get home and can check the guage!

I hope I don't have to eat my hat!!!!!

Mine is the '04 but I am sure '05 engine specs were identical.

cheers,
DaveM

 

[DaveM]

Now that I am home

Rexx the Daytona '04 955, redline is 11,500rpm as I thought

cheers,
DaveM

 

[CharlieS]

I am 6 ft tall, 190 lbs (86kg). The 955 Daytona did feel good sitting on it, but I didn't ride it. I did like the almost linear throttle response my Sprint had, and it really did have all the power I needed. I never considered that the powerband on the Daytona might be farther up the RPM scale. I just assumed, being a 955.....you know. I mostly commute, take an evening ride, go get lost on the weekend. But I also plan to ride to some shooting matches, and those are typically 200-300 miles away. Guess I am answering my own question here.

Thanks,

Charlie

 

[RexxyPup]

Not what Tuneboy says

Dave,

using Tuneboy to look at tune

"010180 - Daytona from VIN 132513 with aftermarket exhaust"

Gives the following values for rev limits

Kills all fuel at 11,000
Increase fuel cut at 10,900
Start to cut fuel at 10,800
restart normal fuel at 10,700

Rexx

 

[DaveM]

Sorry Rexx

Oh shoot the man has a tuneboy!

I was going by the spec rated hp rpm and my rpm gauge, I did not think they would both be wrong! I got the hp rpms off some website or other (just can't trust websites!) and just looked at the tacho, and I thought I had it nailed!

I wonder how accurate the tacho really is then?

Can you tell from the TB? I guess you could.

cheers,
DaveM

 

[steventhechef]

How does your hat taste Dave?

 

[DaveM]

Steven it is a bit dry actually!

But I don't understand why the guage says 11,500?

cheers,
DaveM

 

[RexxyPup]

Bet the corks were a little chewy!!!

Always wondered how you would attach the corks to a helmet - Sorry. Couldn't resist!

No worries.... was more concerned that

a. I had more revs (POWER) to play with than I was using

b. The edges of your pistons would look like the edges of your tyres

I don't know about your tacho, 'cos my redline is drawn at a measly 9,500rpm. Feel really wickedevil3: deliberately tooling into the red zone, and when I had it dyno'd the operator wouldn't go there.

Rexx

 

[CharlieS]

Always wondered how you would attach the corks to a helmet - Sorry. Couldn't resist!

No worries.... was more concerned that

a. I had more revs (POWER) to play with than I was using

b. The edges of your pistons would look like the edges of your tyres

I don't know about your tacho, 'cos my redline is drawn at a measly 9,500rpm. Feel really wickedevil3: deliberately tooling into the red zone, and when I had it dyno'd the operator wouldn't go there.

Rexx

So, do I understand this correctly? You're using the tuneboy to move the redline higher?

---Charlie

 

[Razzoo]

So, do I understand this correctly? You're using the tuneboy to move the redline higher?

---Charlie

I think he is running a Daytona tune on a Daytona engine (thus rev limit would be higher), but has a Sprint tach.

Rex, I am interested in how new tune works. I have wondered how well that swap would work. And Charlie I am with you on lovin the more rounded contours of older bikes

 

[NEV1050]

The Tacho and Owners manual for my 03 Tona both say 11,500 redline.
Spit out that hat DaveM.

 

[DaveM]

Phut sput no hat.

Thanks Nev

cheers,
DaveM