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good video. from experience i'd sAY the duc rider was the better rider. usually when you can stay on someone's as$ like that, that means your most likely faster. he lost a few hole-shots, but could have passed the other guy several times.
was actually surprised the wreck happened. that could have been a lot worse.
was actually surprised the wreck happened. that could have been a lot worse.
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A good argument for a trackday. Too fast for the street, and howmuch are those Bimotas? I would agree that th eDuc rider looked pretty smooth, appeared to get of the bike better than the other guy, but succomed to target fixation at the end. :hammer:
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·Good video. Good save by the guy on the Duc to get it slowed down. I don't know about the guy on the Duc being a "better" rider but he was the "safer" rider. It's a whole lot easier to follow and get right up to someone's ass then it is to pass and lead. When you follow another rider you're able to use them as a brake marker so you can judge how much deeper you can go into a corner before you have to brake. When you're out in front all you have is your own guts and feelings.
That video made my palms sweat...I like watching that stuff because it makes me realize why I never ride like that on the street. I barely have the balls to do that stuff on the track let alone with cars and unknown debris on the road. He got what he deserved, I was just waiting for it to happen, with all that speed there was bound to be a mistake made.
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Lucky he didn't go straight over barrier - feuck!!! :wow:
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To me safer IS better. I'd rather ride with a guy on the road who shows a bit of prudence and patience rather than wanton recklessness. Save it for the track. You want to get nuts and see what your bike can really do? Go to the track.
When I was in the service we NEVER took guys onto our team who were balls out crazy. Those kinda people get you killed. Same on a bike. I don't ride with knuckleheads. My favorite riding partner is an ex-japanese circut rider. He knows when it's appropriate to ride fast and when it's not.
These videos are a blast to watch though. God loves an idiot, they keep him busy and provide the rest of us with late night entertainment. :razz:
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Here...
is a link to the Bimota specs. Those guys would have to be very familiar with that road and pretty talented riders to try that stuff, but in the end they crashed both bikes, and probably totaled the Bimota.
It's only been a few years, but I miss the V Twin 1000cc superbikes.
[ This message was edited by: speedydave on 2007-01-17 07:17 ]
is a link to the Bimota specs. Those guys would have to be very familiar with that road and pretty talented riders to try that stuff, but in the end they crashed both bikes, and probably totaled the Bimota.
It's only been a few years, but I miss the V Twin 1000cc superbikes.
[ This message was edited by: speedydave on 2007-01-17 07:17 ]
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awesome video!!! Hate to see the guy bite it at the end, but they were definitely toying with crash'n by the speeds it looks like they were travel'n! Btw, can anyone tell me how to upload a video to the internet? :-D I finally just got the footage from the guy that taped us at Deals Gap last year. It's on a DVD and I wouldn't mind post'n some of it up, but have no idea how? :hammer: :???: It's not quite as exciting as that one, but we were having a good time. :-D
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Love the sound of those twins.
I always have mixed feelings about these videos. They're fun to watch, but I abhor the sort of behavior in them. I'm with Calitriple - good riding is safe riding. If you get where you're going in one piece you've done everything right. Sure, guys dragging knees on the street look like heroes, but crashing makes you look like a chump. And they crash a lot. (Love the quote toward the end: "Not what you need after you've broken your back two months earlier" - obviously he's not _that_ good).
And on the street, it ain't all about you. I don't push it on the street because I know there are too many things I can't control, from road conditions to the actions of cellphone-addicted drivers. No matter how good you are or how fast a lap time you can turn, you're only as good as the moron who runs the red light or changes into your lane while changing CDs, lighting a cigarette and talking on the cell phone at the same time. And he's not that good.
I always have mixed feelings about these videos. They're fun to watch, but I abhor the sort of behavior in them. I'm with Calitriple - good riding is safe riding. If you get where you're going in one piece you've done everything right. Sure, guys dragging knees on the street look like heroes, but crashing makes you look like a chump. And they crash a lot. (Love the quote toward the end: "Not what you need after you've broken your back two months earlier" - obviously he's not _that_ good).
And on the street, it ain't all about you. I don't push it on the street because I know there are too many things I can't control, from road conditions to the actions of cellphone-addicted drivers. No matter how good you are or how fast a lap time you can turn, you're only as good as the moron who runs the red light or changes into your lane while changing CDs, lighting a cigarette and talking on the cell phone at the same time. And he's not that good.
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Speedydave, How did ya like your Mille, I loved mine but found her a we bit of a handful just putting around, It didn't start to come together till it was doing 160 Km plus, Awesome power delivery use to really punch out of corners I loved that, And the sound Wow!!! :-D I miss mine to, But the S3 is a better allrounder can do more on it and comfortable too!! Just my 2 cents worth 
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NICE VIDEO!!!!
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You said it! It was a great bike, and very fun to ride. It was a dream to ride in the mountains, and was quite fast in the corners.On 2007-01-17 11:38, Stampy wrote:
Speedydave, How did ya like your Mille, I loved mine but found her a we bit of a handful just putting around, It didn't start to come together till it was doing 160 Km plus, Awesome power delivery use to really punch out of corners I loved that, And the sound Wow!!! :-D I miss mine to, But the S3 is a better allrounder can do more on it and comfortable too!! Just my 2 cents worth
I had an Arrow CF slip on and the upgraded computer chip. I had a dyno sheet of 113hp at the wheel.
That being said, it was not very fun to ride in town. It almost seemed like a waste to start it up and ride to work.
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I wouldn't say that either of them was any better then the other as for skills. I think the guy on the Duc was riding in the back for camera purposes obviously. However if he would have moved to the right after the Bimota went down he would have missed being involved in the collision. He fixated on the guy and drove right into him. Should have done like a race car driver, travel to the high side after a crash in front of you........As for the safety issues here, looks like a open road but still many unknowns and riding left of center numerous times most likely not real bright. Anyway always interesting to watch stuff like that and see what you can learn......
It's much easier to follow someone than to lead. I find myself going alot slower leading because im paying alot more attention to the road, so i brake harder for corners etc.. After a guy behind me passes me, I can easily keep up with them, and it seems like they are slowing me down, in reality it's the nature of leading on a group ride. You ride slower up front i think.
Either way, nice video. I have seen a few of those videos and they are noice!
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