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Captains;

I am contemplating opening up this beast to produce more HP. I believe somewhere in posts of past someone provided guidance on how to do this, by modifying the butterflies or removing them and re-mapping the codes.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Captains;

I am contemplating opening up this beast to produce more HP. I believe somewhere in posts of past someone provided guidance on how to do this, by modifying the butterflies or removing them and re-mapping the codes.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
How much money do you want to spend?
 

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Doug;
I have an open mind. I am retired (once) and still work.
I understand that in 10 mins and a quick mapping change will increase HP to 150. I understand this can be accomplished very quickly.
Then if one is willing to remove the butterflies in the fuel injection system and remap the codes, it will produce 225 HP. While I do not know if any of this is true, that is why I am asking.
Or... I will put the bike up for sale and buy a hot rod.
 

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Doug;
I have an open mind. I am retired (once) and still work.
I understand that in 10 mins and a quick mapping change will increase HP to 150. I understand this can be accomplished very quickly.
Then if one is willing to remove the butterflies in the fuel injection system and remap the codes, it will produce 225 HP. While I do not know if any of this is true, that is why I am asking.
Or... I will put the bike up for sale and buy a hot rod.
Let's assume you can use software (Tuneboy ($500) or TuneECU (free)) to open the secondaries 100%. You can't just rip them out and get optimal results.

First, are you talking about the 2005 R3 or the 2008 Touring? You won't get 150 hp with the stock exhaust and intake on either. If you had Triumph off road mufflers (TOR) on the 2005 plus the cat bypass pipe, plus triple filters on the throttle bodies, you could get 140-150 hp with an existing custom map for that setup. For the Touring, I believe catalytic converters are in the mufflers so this is not an optimum muffler for that bike.

For about $1200, you could get a full Jardine system for either bike. I know a guy with a Touring with Jardines and triple filters + a custom mapped Power Commander PCIII (~$650) who got 157 hp and 150 ft lbs).

For the Rocket, you can get what is basically a race kit from Carpenter Racing which includes head work, cams, and domed pistons which will give you 230 hp for over $6000 if you drive it to them. It's cheaper if you send them the head and do the work yourself.

You can also get a Turbo Connection turbo from Boostisgood for $5500 - 200+ hp and torque. This is a pretty easy install. Or a Rotrex supercharger with 200 or 300 hp depending on which kit you get for $5000+ or $6000+. They also have a 400 hp version which requires custom pistons and cams. The mapping for these additions require the Tuneboy software to install the custom maps.
 

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Doug;
Thanks a million for sharing this information. Excellent !!!! I now have some choices to make, and money to parse out for the best option.
It is the 2005, Rocket that I have, with 25K on it. I sold the 2008 about 6 months ago, with 10k + on it.
I have two other bikes in the stable, BMW, LT and Royal Star Touring Classic, that I keep active with as well.
I am an IT guy, since 1969, so GEEK on SPEED are some words that have been used.
In my younger days I use to build engines by night, then wrote computer system programs by day.
Right now, this is very tempting as I was considering selling the bike and use the money for a Hot-Rod, or just an OLD CAR to putz with. But a 400HP Motorcycle is exciting.
I have Corbins Beetle Bags, TrimTab wind deflector, and Dual Touring Saddle.

Again, Thank-you so much for sharing.... Charles
 

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He's a guy on this forum. You can search for his posts and pm him for info. I'm sure he's described his rig over the years on this and other r3 forums (r3owners.com, r3owners.net).


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Doug;
Again that's great news. However I am not familiar with warp9.9. My google search did not provide a place that builds motors, etc.
Hey Royal. Warp here I built my own motor with components from other shops/ 11.8:1 compression pistons. 2 mm larger titatium intake valves 443 lift intake 425 exhaust all Carpenter racing components plus his CNC porting. I also added the Rotrex Supercharger and intercooler combination this bike has some pep but can be very dangerous so I detuned her down to around the target of 420 rwhp. Already blew one dyno up so I try to keep a low profile.

Your best bet is to stay NA so you do not have to fart around and worry aboutthe quality of gas at the pumps. Carpenter can give you plenty in the 240 to 270 hp range. The bike will leap out from undeer you so be carfeull. the have broke into the 8s with there 270 hp street machine. The question is how insane are you and is you life insurance up to date. The standard Stage one will pull low 9's and I bet with a good pilot high 8's yet still run on 87 octane pump gas all day long. If I woere to make a suggestion that would be the way I would go. she will pull over 200 mph if you can hold on:D
 

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Hey Royal. Warp here I built my own motor with components from other shops/ 11.8:1 compression pistons. 2 mm larger titatium intake valves 443 lift intake 425 exhaust all Carpenter racing components plus his CNC porting. I also added the Rotrex Supercharger and intercooler combination this bike has some pep but can be very dangerous so I detuned her down to around the target of 420 rwhp. Already blew one dyno up so I try to keep a low profile.

Your best bet is to stay NA so you do not have to fart around and worry aboutthe quality of gas at the pumps. Carpenter can give you plenty in the 240 to 270 hp range. The bike will leap out from undeer you so be carfeull. the have broke into the 8s with there 270 hp street machine. The question is how insane are you and is you life insurance up to date. The standard Stage one will pull low 9's and I bet with a good pilot high 8's yet still run on 87 octane pump gas all day long. If I woere to make a suggestion that would be the way I would go. she will pull over 200 mph if you can hold on:D

Just wondering, did you look into the Turbo Connection turbo? Why did you choose the blower rather than the turbo?
 

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Ok just my opinions and I am no expert. The turbos are to small and spool up to fast. This will screw pistons up that are not made for turbos. Also when you power dropps mine is still climbing. the turbo starts loosing its snoot around 5500 to 6000 I can not tell you when mine looses it because it had so much I had to take boost away My max boost stops a 9000 rpms. That and I wanted to tame it down a bit. I did not know if the tranny could handle 540+ hp helll I grenaded the internal clutch hub and bent the input transmition shaft shifting into fifth gear at 180 mph the torque was trememndess. If you want to freak yourself out have the engine and transmition lock up at 80 to 90 mph and keep it upright. The bike was all over the road and I was searching for a place I could jump the ditch and punch out in a yard if things were not going to fair out well. My suggestion is do not be a idiot like me you can put a turbine engine on a bike but it does not mean you can control it. Yes I was talking to god while this was happening. The only reason I think I lived is he was not ready for my opinion just yet. Or he figured He will wait for me to get a little more awnry and send me to hell to fuc with satian :D

Believe it or not there is such a thing as to much. I am serious if you went with the stage one Carpenter Silver back and could use all of first gear you are a MAN of MEN. it will leap out from underneath you. Anything else is just pissing money down the drain. Save the cash and do two Rockets then you can decide which bike you want to screw with. No V-maxes or any other sport bike in my area will even play with me anymore. The guy who owned the dyno I blew up will not let me on it anymore. Other Dyno operators are not being friendly either so you will loose a lot of fun. Now if your going to do soem LSR racing well then you just might want to go bonkers. I hope to but might have two more surgeries on top of the 4 I have had. ( Never work in a prison it can get dangerous believe me and not just for the thugs ) If you want to calll and talk about things that can and I have broke doing this insaine stuff go ahead I will PM you my phone number.

Now here is the most reality check that might help you. Bill Warner fastest sit up busa in the world 311+mph standing mile at Lorin Maine. Pulled wheelie at 265 mph at the texas mile slowed down to 235 mph before getting a close look at the track. He has not raced again since. But unlike others he did live so there is a good side to bad things. He broke some ribs punctured a lung broke a anckle. But says the worse is the blunt force trama to the body.

Serious you line up against a busa with a stage 1 beast. your off he hits his speed limiter at 186 mph you then smile and shift into fith gear. I ask you do you realy need any more then that? !/4 mile well thats different but if your not going to spend the mponey to lengthen the bike you will still be pulling the wheels up at the finish line which means you will be letting off the throttle. if you want any more then that one might think your crazy.
If so I have some ideas for you but will not be responsible for the funeral.

So in short I went over board but I had the blower first which was great, the only reason I added to it was because I knew I would not get the money back out of it if I tried to sell it. If Carpenter had their stuff out first thats where I would have went. With Na and no spray you do not have to worry about detonation and who are you going to find to make the next set of stronger head bolts that might hold the head down? Which is where I am at right now OEM studs are not the strongest and I got into soem cheap gas from a station and it detonated quicker then stink on crap. at 40 mph so I was not even getting on it. I think it was the summer/winter mix change or the cheap basturds ran out of premium and sunstituted 89 octane in the tank. I have figured out ways around it now but the fact is with NA you just don't have to worry unless you spray NOS.

Here is my Number I am happy to help anyone I can. the only thing I will not answer is anything about the new Triumph streamliner it is deamed Classified.

309-202-1298
I retire at 10 pm central time during the work week.
 

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Thanks a million for the ton of information and the suggestion. I do have the insurance paid up, and the wife likes that. But at my age, 63, I am not risk averse. The 270HP does sound good, but 420 is such a nice round number, like 3 X 140, or 140 per cylinder. NOW THAT IS SMOKIN HOT !

I will keep thinking it through.....
 

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All depends what you are looking for,
I used to ride my R3 harder when it only had 200+hp
400+ is unbelievably fast, slaughtering supercars & everything else
I have come across on the road, but it is too much for me & prettymuch anyone I know except a couple of racers maybe.
Make no mistake S/charger & built motor is not for you unless you are f**cking good, barking mad or both.
My advice as Warp says is stay naturally aspirated tuned as far as you want to go, 150mph in 9sec, reving over 8k is still a long way from slow :cool:
 

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What do you have for the 1/4 with your 400 hp Rocket?
I have never run the 1/4 on anything, plus I have
not got the b*lls to nail this monster flat out from standing start.
200ft lb @ 2k rpm 300ft lb @ 5.5k rpm needs someone better than me:mad
Which is why I will be detuning it.
 
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