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The new Bonnies with 17" front wheel also have rear shocks with slightly less travel. Presumably this means also that the overall shock length is slightly shorter, too.

The aftermarket shocks I see available as of now are either standard (2001-2008 / T100) length, or 1 inch shorter. Wouldn't using either of those change the steering geometry of the bike a little?

I know we're talking about a fraction of an inch here, but wouldn't the distance from front to rear magnify the angle change at the front if the height at the rear is changed at all?

The new base bike and SE have fantastic handling (I'm being drawn magnet-like toward buying one today), and I wouldn't want to do anything at all to scwooo it up - but the bikes could definitely use better shocks...
 

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I was under the impression that the '09 SE and base used rear shocks exactly 1" shorter than previous models and the T100. Is this not true?
 

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That's what I'm trying to find out.
Will be at the dealer later today or at the latest tomorrow - maybe I can find out then for sure.
 

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T100 units are 340mm 2009/SE are 330mm. I have fitted Hagon 2810 adjustable shocks with standard rate progressive wound springs in 340mm length to my SE. The reason I went for 340mm was I reasoned that the ride height would end up the same with a longer unit and reasonably compliant springs instead of the single rate truck springs fitted to the standard shorter units which barely moved when I sat on the bike. Me and Mrs S are pleased with the ride at the rear, the front needs a bit of sorting now. A quick fix is to pick up a S/H pair of T100 units they have progressive springs and are a lot better than the standard SE units.
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Thank you very much - that's excellent information and advice!

For the sake of future reference, how were you able to find out the respective length of the stock shocks?
Data in service manuals?

I was so busy with the purchase process today :Wallop that I forgot to ask about or measure any shocks.

Am picking up my new black SE tomorrow!:Dance02:
 

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Carbonbased said
For the sake of future reference, how were you able to find out the respective length of the stock shocks?
Data in service manuals?

Most manufacturers like Hagon Progressive Ikon etc give the length of the T100 shocks on their website but don't tend to list the 2009/Se as they are still very new, but having both sets in the garage I just measured them.

Have fun with your new SE I am sure you are going to enjoy it, try to avoid the big bumps though as you will see how harsh the stock suspension is.
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I replaced my 09 Bonnie shocks (cast wheel) with progressive shocks-13" which is 1/2 " less than the spoke wheel Bonnie. Fit and work great.
 

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looking on the hagon site the 330 + 340 MM shocks have the same travel although they are different lengths. several varying length shocks have the the same travel, they jump in groups a little at a time. looking at the nitro's for my 2012 bonnie, are these DeCarbon shocks, what to they call FULLY adjustable, a little gray to me on their site
 

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Yes, the Hagon 2810's are DeCarbon-style gas emulsion shocks and are available in lengths from 270mm (10.6") to 370mm (14.6") in 10mm increments.

[EDIT: 82mm stroke length -regardless- of overall length and/or model.]

They do come with a 2 year warranty. I see the MSRP shot up to $355 a pair, so one would be well advised to place an order soon before the price hike hit the retail floors.

/M
 

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Went with Ohlins 36E's; couldn't be happier.
 

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correct me if i am wrong, a DeCarbon shock is not an emulsion shock, where gas + oil MIX, they have a separate gas chamber either within the shock body, piggyback or with a hose to the gas reservoir. i do not see any hagon twin shocks listed like that. hagon web lists only the nitro in twin shocks as rebuildable
 
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