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Hopefully Ive posted this in the rgiht place. If anyone is interested in fly screens vs. larger wind screens, here is my experience. I have installed the Dart Flyscreen and couldn't be happier!
I chose it for its clean roadster look and felt from reading other posts in these forums that it would deliver the performance I was wanting. I seldom lumber along. End of May I rode Tyler,Tx to Austin,Tx about 250 miles and returned to Tyler after riding Austin area and some west of there. This was a two day trip 600 miles in all. At 60-80 mph. there is none of that wind beating (buffeting). I know Im catching wind (air flow) but it is no longer whipping me. Slide back in the saddle, ease into a more drag posture and 100 mph felt very smooth. No I don't do that often, but this bike (06 America) will run!
Ive posted a link to album showing the screen if anyone wants to see.
http://www.triumphrat.net/memberalbums/showphoto.php/photo/16117/ppuser/50596
 

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Hopefully Ive posted this in the rgiht place. If anyone is interested in fly screens vs. larger wind screens, here is my experience. I have installed the Dart Flyscreen and couldn't be happier!
I chose it for its clean roadster look and felt from reading other posts in these forums that it would deliver the performance I was wanting. I seldom lumber along. End of May I rode Tyler,Tx to Austin,Tx about 250 miles and returned to Tyler after riding Austin area and some west of there. This was a two day trip 600 miles in all. At 60-80 mph. there is none of that wind beating (buffeting). I know Im catching wind (air flow) but it is no longer whipping me. Slide back in the saddle, ease into a more drag posture and 100 mph felt very smooth. No I don't do that often, but this bike (06 America) will run!
Ive posted a link to album showing the screen if anyone wants to see.
http://www.triumphrat.net/memberalbums/showphoto.php/photo/16117/ppuser/50596
Ha, you beat me to it. I bought one earlier this month and have been "testing" it. I never used a screen so I have no idea of what is good or what is bad.

I can say it looks great. Far from being as ugly as I expected. it blends perfectly with the bike. I am very happy with how it looks on the bike, sometimes I even think it even improves the stock look...

On the other hand, I expected a more dramatic effect. Remember this is my first ever screen and, knowingly, I bought a tiny one. Lately though, I am getting the growing impression that it is much easier to cruise now. The wind is still there but it seems to hit me in different places, in a different way... kind of difficult to explain and definitely not dead obvious. Also, I'm tiny, so bigger guys might feel differently about this.

In a word: recommended.
 

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HumpedZebra, this was my first screen of any kind. I had rode the bike enough to know I was being whipped or buffeted (webster defines as 3 : to drive, force, move, or attack by or as if by repeated blows). I searched these forums for wind screens and fly screens. Read the posts and looked at pictures. I preferred the look of the simple flyscreen. It was the positive posts of others regarding the Dart Flyscreen that made me take the chance. Also its impressive to discover the owner/president of Dart Flyscreen (Steve) is a member (sleddy) of this board and supports his product completely. I dont know how that little deflector does it, but I do not feel the buffeting at all. Having underlined that, pjvenda (in this thread) describes it very well. PJ, thanks for your post. It is a confidence builder and a reaffirming note. We dont know where it went or if it was just altered, but the wind is more steady and maybe more deflected upward toward the head, which is not to suggest my head can no longer hold itself up. It is no longer making my neck or back hurt and I no longer feel the battering. Like PJ said, "cruising is easier". I am 5'9 165 lbs. wear a full face HJC helmet, and it is just an absolute rush! I whole-heartedly recommend the DART Flyscreen.
 

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I just bought an 07 America this spring and I've been toying with the idea of a screen. Not sure I like the looks of the bigger screens, but didn't think the fly screen would really help. Thanks for the info, I'll be looking at this fly screen much more seriously now!
 

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Crain, congratulations on your new America. I know you will enjoy it! You are probably aware as well as riders, there are varying factors that effect a rider on his or her bike. And lets keep in mind that I am relatively new to riding on an 06 America and therefor whatever I may post in here could be questionable, lol. This business of buffeting of the rider primarily has to do with an object moving into an existing air space. There may not even be any wind present. The more surface area a rider and the bike present as they push their way into the airspace, the more resistance there will be. Factors of influence would be clothing, helmet, wind or fly screens, anything attached to the bike that strikes the airspace. On a calm day with a jacket on I have felt noticeable difference in buffeting. That jacket catches air and whips around about me (it is not a high quality motorcycle jacket, which might make a difference). My helmet catches air. The flyscreen does seem to be ridiculously small. It does not deflect all the airspace away from striking the rider (buffeting), but I am sure it deflects it in a new direction and removes some of the air space I might otherwise be running into. I have no experience with large screens, so have nothing to compare. I just know there is for me a more smooth comfortable ride.
 

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I have a flyscreen on my Speedmaster and find that it works great, with minimal bufetting up to 100mph. However, I've never ridden a Speedmaster in anger without a screen, so maybe I'm just talking rubbish. It might not work as well on an America because of the more upright riding position. I used to have a bigger screen on my old cruiser and I can't say that it did any better job than the flyscreen.
 

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+1 on the Dart Flyscreen

Used to run a Dart on my '01 Bonnie. Traded to a '09 Speedmaster last year that came with an OEM Roadster. I'm 5'11" and ride with a full face HJC helmet. Have now gone back to a Dart after trying three larger screens. Here are my impressions:
>> OEM Roadster - Good wind block to the chest, neck and face. Wind blast hit me at the forehead. Some head buffeting at speeds over 60mph but certainly tolerable.
>> Large Clearview Screen without extended lowers - This was my first run with a Clearview. Amazing optical clarity, very nice edge finishing. The screen is 4" taller and 2" wider than the Roadster. I found the head buffeting to be significantly worse than the Roadster. Vision became obstructed. Found that the wind blast was shooting over my helmet by an inch or two but the larger screen was forcing air down and then up over the tank and into the bottom of the helmet. Sightline for my height had me looking just over the top of the screen if I sat very upright; through the top inch or two if I slouched a bit.
>> Large Clearview Screen with Extended Lowers - Same overall size as above but with lowers that dropped down and around the headlamp assembly. No doubt the lowers worked to kill the tank blast. Head buffeting reduced to a level equal to what I experienced with the OEM Roadster. Otherwise very comfortable. For my taste though, not a major improvement over the Roadster so not sticking with it.
>> Dart Flyscreen - Dramatic improvement in chest wind blast vs. no screen. No sensation of 'death grip' to hang on at highway speeds. Chest blast is completely removed from abdomen and center chest. Air is deflected to outer edge of shoulders and lower jaw area. The helmet / head is left in clean air similar to no screen.
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For my part...the Dart is staying on the bike. Exactly what I have been looking for. Reduced chest blast and clean air to the helmet leaving little or no head buffeting.
 

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Used to run a Dart on my '01 Bonnie. Traded to a '09 Speedmaster last year that came with an OEM Roadster. I'm 5'11" and ride with a full face HJC helmet. Have now gone back to a Dart after trying three larger screens. Here are my impressions:
>> OEM Roadster - Good wind block to the chest, neck and face. Wind blast hit me at the forehead. Some head buffeting at speeds over 60mph but certainly tolerable.
>> Large Clearview Screen without extended lowers - This was my first run with a Clearview. Amazing optical clarity, very nice edge finishing. The screen is 4" taller and 2" wider than the Roadster. I found the head buffeting to be significantly worse than the Roadster. Vision became obstructed. Found that the wind blast was shooting over my helmet by an inch or two but the larger screen was forcing air down and then up over the tank and into the bottom of the helmet. Sightline for my height had me looking just over the top of the screen if I sat very upright; through the top inch or two if I slouched a bit.
>> Large Clearview Screen with Extended Lowers - Same overall size as above but with lowers that dropped down and around the headlamp assembly. No doubt the lowers worked to kill the tank blast. Head buffeting reduced to a level equal to what I experienced with the OEM Roadster. Otherwise very comfortable. For my taste though, not a major improvement over the Roadster so not sticking with it.
>> Dart Flyscreen - Dramatic improvement in chest wind blast vs. no screen. No sensation of 'death grip' to hang on at highway speeds. Chest blast is completely removed from abdomen and center chest. Air is deflected to outer edge of shoulders and lower jaw area. The helmet / head is left in clean air similar to no screen.
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For my part...the Dart is staying on the bike. Exactly what I have been looking for. Reduced chest blast and clean air to the helmet leaving little or no head buffeting.
Thanks for the nice group review. I would only add that the dart's finishing quality is top-notch too.
 

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Not much at all. The initial install includes mounting the side support brackets. One bolt for each mounted via the hex bolt under the top plate of your triple tree. If you don't mind leaving these on the screen itself is just 4 screws mounted to the brackets. If you want the brackets off - 5 minutes should do it.
 

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This thread has turned into a really good one. Like any of the good threads in these forums, it is because all of you have contributed useful information than hopefully will be of benefit to others. I've wanted a Triumph since I was a kid and finally purchased my 06 America last Sept. at an out of town dealership. Ive not had the pleasure of riding with other Triumphers like some of you guys. Its a lonewolf in a Harley pack in my part of the country. Whenever Ive tried to find out something regarding this bike, the information that helped me make decisions has come from these forums and people like "pjvenda" and "HumpedZebra". Special thanks to "ajcdturner", wise from experience and taking the time to share. I believe all possible windscreens are now covered in this thread thanks to your input! LOL.
 

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hi guys great threads on screens ,ive been getting bad wind buffeting at 95 mph , the dart screen sounds like the answer , thanks for info.
 

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So now that I'm pretty set on getting the Dart Flyscreen, does anyone have any suggestions on where to purchase one? I've found them on a couple websites, but since I've never bought motorcycle parts online, let alone Triumph parts, I'm not quite sure who to go through.
 

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Without trying to take business away from any of these good folks, you can get direct from Dart - $129 inc postage. Gotta feeling that's where mine came from.
 

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Damn, wish I had gotten mine direct, that way I could be telling folks it came all the way from England !!!

OR... Woolly could have been saying " I got mine all the way from Texas !!!" (You just didn't realize did you Woolly! - damn again!)

Just a little fun poking... It was a scorcher here today in Texas and only now, 6 hours later after enduring it all day and a few honey-dos is my mind cooled down enough that it can be so creative.

Congrats to all who enjoy the freedom and rush of the ride!
 

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Well, I just found out my dealership is an authorized British Customs dealer. I'm going to have them doing some stuff anyway, so I'll probably have them order it and install it at the same time. Kill two birds with one stone so to speak. Thanks for the info though, I'm bookmarking those links :)
 
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