no air filter element
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ooh, that sucks. no pun intended.
Bummer man, I would defintely have to have a discussion with the dealer. I am certain they will so deny any responsibility or liability but I would so have to have the talk.
If it causes any premature wear just gives you reason to pop for the big bore kit!!!!! Of maybe do it anyhow just cause.....yeah thats what to do. I am looking for as valid an excuse to justify it myself. Sure, it will run for years as is but .....
Maybe for grins run a compression and or leakdown test to see if you have any wear. Guess it depends on how dusty it is in your neck of the woods. Here in SC it would just be sucking pollon, not sure how abrasive that is.
If it causes any premature wear just gives you reason to pop for the big bore kit!!!!! Of maybe do it anyhow just cause.....yeah thats what to do. I am looking for as valid an excuse to justify it myself. Sure, it will run for years as is but .....
Maybe for grins run a compression and or leakdown test to see if you have any wear. Guess it depends on how dusty it is in your neck of the woods. Here in SC it would just be sucking pollon, not sure how abrasive that is.
This needs to be documented for potential future warranty work. How did you get another filter? Did you buy one, or did a dealer replace it?
Running lean is a bigger problem than pulling trash through your carbs. If you had a problem down the road, Triumph may accuse you of making a mistake with improper jetting.
So the shop needed a filter for a customer, borrowed it from your bike and never replaced it?
Running lean is a bigger problem than pulling trash through your carbs. If you had a problem down the road, Triumph may accuse you of making a mistake with improper jetting.
So the shop needed a filter for a customer, borrowed it from your bike and never replaced it?
That doesn't help me. You jet based on flow, so if thats the way they ran the bikes, they were so adjusted. These bikes don't seem to run rich stock, so allowing more intake can't be good. It may not be bad, but someone with experience should say.
I wouldn't speculate, I'd talk to someone who has tuned current models with various intake and exhaust systems and see if they thought the bike ran too lean. I mean, this was through break-in, and 7k kms. And I'd have it on record with Triumph in case this comes up 20 months from now.
With a name like "rascal", he's probably been putting his Bonnie through the paces, as he should.
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That really isn't all that reassuring. I had one of those old bikes with an open velocity stack. I ran it around the roads here in NE Ohio for about 6000 miles and, when I pulled the heads, there were deep grooves in the cylinder walls. After that, the velocity stack didn't seem so cool and I became a believer in air filters.
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Hey Rascal, that's funny, I bought my '01 here in NZ second hand in 2005 with about 7800kms on it, and when I eventually thought I ought to give it a new air filter I got one and looked and - same as you - no filter at all in it!! I was flabbergasted, but the strange thing was, she ran like a shower of***** with no filter (came with TORs), pulled real hard and clean, started well cold or hot, good low down and tope end.,...etc etc. Now with a K&N she feels a bit strangled, doesn't run as well at all.
Of course, mine's well out of warranty, but the motor seems fine and no harm done (though NZ is not very dusty, unlike Oz). Hope your motor's fine too - I wouldn't worry too much, but perhaps others should take a look in there...??
Of course, mine's well out of warranty, but the motor seems fine and no harm done (though NZ is not very dusty, unlike Oz). Hope your motor's fine too - I wouldn't worry too much, but perhaps others should take a look in there...??
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Rascal: I discovered my 01 bonnie didn't have an air filter element at around 4000 miles. I bought it new, and notified my dealer, who performed a compression test to determine if there was any measurable loss of compression. It tested at the upper end of normal compression. I'm at 12,000 miles now, and it's still running fine. I did open up the airbox, and installed K&N pods, and along with some jets and free flowing exhausts which gave me a marked increase in horsepower. Here in Oklahoma, I guess there wasn't much dust in 02! Cheers, tommyturbo2
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can't say i'm surprised... i love my bike but from the factory it was a mess. had to take it back to the dealer the day after getting home. i had oil coming out of the transmission at the spot where the clutch cable goes into the casing. the mechanic got it apart and couldn't belive that the seal had been installed upside down. i've had my speedometer, speedo cable, gas tank and oil switch replaced under warranty. but the big warranty job was having triumph replace the head. turns out the when my bike was put together the was put on crooked. it caused an oil leak in the head. after all of the repairs i rode her 14K miles to alaska over 10 weeks without even a flat tire. i wouldn't trade this bike for anything in the world. i just dropped her off for my 24K mile service last saturday.
can't say i'm surprised... i love my bike but from the factory it was a mess. had to take it back to the dealer the day after getting home. i had oil coming out of the transmission at the spot where the clutch cable goes into the casing. the mechanic got it apart and couldn't belive that the seal had been installed upside down. i've had my speedometer, speedo cable, gas tank and oil switch replaced under warranty. but the big warranty job was having triumph replace the head. turns out the when my bike was put together the was put on crooked. it caused an oil leak in the head. after all of the repairs i rode her 14K miles to alaska over 10 weeks without even a flat tire. i wouldn't trade this bike for anything in the world. i just dropped her off for my 24K mile service last saturday.
ha. neither, it was Idiot assembled. people tell me it was most likely put togther on a friday before happy hour or on a monday after a LONG and drunken weekend that started with a Friday happy hour.
now my only problem is the right side carb backfiring internally and kicking the back of the engine sideways into my side panel. i love my triumph.
Are you guys sure your bikes were assembled at the factory with no air filters? Were you looking for something like a paper or cotton type K&N filter? You know, the new "classic" Triumphs have an air filter "cartridge" that slides in and out, and has a air "snorkel" attached to it and the plastic housing. These bikes don't have the traditional looking air filter elements, correct?
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