[DeanRider]

I went on a breakfast ride Sunday. My mates showd me up in their cornering ability in the twistie sections.

Can u give me some help on cornering techniques -- particular how best to get the correct line going into a bend, gear selection (v. important), leaning & rate of lean and finally use of brakes (front or back or both?)

Mayb there is a website that could help me.

 

[Wombat]

I don't think that learning to ride a motorcycle is something that you can learn from the internet or reading a book....although you may pick up a few tips here and there.

I would suggest that you look around for a training class in your area and sign up.

Get some 'hands on training' from some professional instructors, not just your mates.

Having done that, ride ride and ride some more.

 

[bovefrankj]

Wise words Wombat. Always go at your own speed, watch and learn and one day it will all fall into place.
Meanwhile - slow in, fast out.

 

[DeanRider]

Can't some1 take me thru how they approach & execute a typical bend?

 

[iceman]

Dean,

check out this website on riding skills.

Wombat is correct - a riding course is well worth it.A lot of us have done them and I have never heard of anyone yet who didnt learn something worthwhile.

There are a lot of things to consider if you are trying to corner faster like countersteering,braking and changing gear before you lay it in,the correct line - usually a late apex (hard to explain), etc.

riding skills

Also there are some very good books by people like Keith Code.

Meanwhile dont get sucked in to riding faster than you are comfortable with - the result can be terminal.

Ride safe

Grant

 

[Wombat]

On 2007-01-15 02:03, DeanRider wrote:
Can't some1 take me thru how they approach & execute a typical bend?

Yes, A good instructor.

BTW Drop the l33t 5p34k

[ This message was edited by: Wombat on 2007-01-15 02:41 ]

 

[DaveM]

Deanrider,
I strongly agree with Wombat and iceman.

If you do not know or understand these basic things then you should do a riding course.

"A twist of the wrist 1 or 2" by Keith Code is excellent or the "Bikers Bible" by a NZ author is also very good.

DaveM

 

[ruscook]

I definitely second Dave's comment ont he Keith Code books. He also runs the California Superbike School (and various franchises around the world) that give some of the best training for learning about yourself and your bike. Well worth the big $$

Russ

 

[9264]

How long have you been riding Dean?

 

[97sprint]

Talk to your friends ask them "how" they corner.
And if they are your friends they will be helpful, not dicks.

Here in the states we have the MSF courses designed for beginners and experienced riders.
Not sure about what is available in Europe, or England--Great Britain. Ask around or do some research.


Here's alink to a good article, actually buy the book and see what you can learn or what you and your buddies may be doing wrong. NBiggets thing relax and learn.

http://www.soundrider.com/current/road_science-CC4.html

 

[Silverado57]

No offense to anyone, but Deanrider's question is exactly why a MSF or other course should be mandatory for new riders. The stuff they teach you in 2 1/2 days is priceless. Hard to believe but I've met long-time riders that didn't know what countersteering is.

Given the right conditions, the very short answer on turns is:

Your correct solution in the vast majority of cases where you have lean angle in hand, is:
i) look through the corner at your exit, not at the problem in front of you
ii) countersteer and use your extra lean angle to make the turn
iii) roll open and use the throttle to gently power the bike as you steer - the aim is to avoid coasting, avoid loading the front tyre with decelerating forces and keeping the steering geometry neutral

Braking through a turn is very complicated for a new rider and can be downright dangerous. Not something you want to learn by accident. Be safe!

Deanrider, good luck and ride your own ride.

[ This message was edited by: Silverado57 on 2007-01-15 07:00 ]

 

[Archimedes]

"My mates showd me up in their cornering ability in the twistie sections."


Sorry Dean but this is the wrong reason for wanting to learn.

:razz:



Better five minutes late in this world than five minutes early in the next.

 

[hogwylde]

Some very good advice here. Ride within your abilities and never try to keep up simply because they are going faster or riding "better". Another thing to keep in mind is don't confuse riding "faster and better" with riding SMARTER

 

[Speed3]

I've been riding since October. Can anyone tell me how to get a knee down in curves? It looks really cool! TIA.

 

[MrBiff2You]

Ride your own ride at your own pace in terms of your ability and get proper instruction. You will benefit from that more than anything else.

Other than that - look where you WANT to go, not where you DON'T WANT to go in the twisties!

 

[muss]

like everyone else here recommends, take the MSF course.

most important lesson in cornering, find your line and look through it the entire curve. your bike will go where you are looking...

don't out ride your skill or comfort level.

take your time and enjoy the ride...

 

[cyclebob]

dean, somehow I get the feeling you're gonna try to keep up w/your buddies. If nothin' else, make sure you are well armored!! It may not cure foolishness, but will minimize roadrash and breakage.

 

[97sprint]

Anyone see a problem with a S3 as a first bike?

Sure it's all in the brain/wrist connection, but that is a lot of machine for a new rider or beginner.

 

[remlin1]

Speed3
The last thing I want to be to anybody on this forum is rude. With that said--- If you have only been riding since Oct. Getting a knee down in the corners because it looks cool is only going to get you hurt. Please read what the other experienced riders on this forum are saying and take it to heart. We are all here to contribute to each others welfare as far as riding and sharing riding techniques are concerned. I sure don't want to here about another tragic accident concerning a youthful and inexperienced rider.

Brian

 

[tman11535]

I learned how to go through the corners by weaving in and out of the passing marks on the highway. the faster you go the better you become. Cornering is the Essene of motorcycle and man together until you know the limits of you bike you cannot know the limits of your own skills tman :-D