I changed mine out recently. I used EBC organic thinking they would be easier on my disks. The front pads contact the disc about .125" more toward the center which I found odd. Consequently they seem to be taking and unusually long amount of time to break in (fronts still feel weak). I'm sure they will improve as miles increase, but next time I will use the HH pads. I've always had good luck with them on my off-road bikes. $.02