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Hi,
A while back I had my frame painted in 2-pack (2k?) paint but the sprayer did a lousy job so I decided to get it powder coated. I got my frame back from the powder coater but the frame number had disappeared under the coating. So I decided to uncover it by using a pointed scriber to clean out the number stampings. It looks like the original 2-pack paint and primer is still on the frame under the powder coat.
Is it possible for someone to powder coat a frame without stripping off the old paint and primer? I thought that the frame had to be back to bare metal so that the electrically charged powder could adhere to the frame. Also, the new coating (whatever it is), can be peeled cleanly off the old paintwork - it hasn't really adhered to the surface at all.
I've never had a frame powder coated before so I don't know what I'm looking at, but it does feel like I've been ripped off.
If anyone can help me understand what has gone on I'd much appreciate your opinion.
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Tony
 

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As a professional powder coater my reputation stands on the quality of my work.I would never ever powder coat over anyone else's paint, or for that matter anyone else's powder coating. If they did a poor job and I do a perfect job over it but the original coating starts to fail who do you think gets the blame, the last guy to work on it. I would find another coater if your first choice thinks it's okay to coat over paint. It can be done, it will still electrically charge and attract through the paint, but it is highly not recommended.
If your new coating is peeling off, then yes you got ripped off and I would be demanding a refund.
 

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Thanks Marc.
There seems to be a growing trend on this side of the water for unskilled people to just set themselves up as 'restoration specialists' as it's a way of making a fast buck. Unfortunately it's the customer that suffers. It looks like I'll be going for attempt number 3 on the frame and other parts - now I know why the guy asked for the $800 in cash.
 

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You are having some serious bad luck with having a finish put on your frame - if it can be peeled off easily whether its on top of the 2K or not - then it certainly isnt a good job - you need to go back and show them it is peeling - i think legally you have to give them a chance to rectify it or refund you (their decision which but I could be wrong ) - don't know who you used but there are a number of powder coaters in the UK that only powder coat bikes (i hope its not one of them !)
 

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Thanks Marc.
There seems to be a growing trend on this side of the water for unskilled people to just set themselves up as 'restoration specialists' as it's a way of making a fast buck. Unfortunately it's the customer that suffers. It looks like I'll be going for attempt number 3 on the frame and other parts - now I know why the guy asked for the $800 in cash.
Holy sh*te, is coating that expensive in the UK? I charge around $250USD to completely strip and coat a Triumph frame in a single stage color. I would definitely try and get a refund as this place is not reputable enough for me to give them a second chance unless they are willing to completely strip it and start fresh. Charging you that much is outrageous because they did no prep to it if they just shot over someone else paint. That would be at most here $100 if you found someone to do it.I wouldn't feel right with myself if I charged you $800 to do it the correct way. $800UK is $1160USD, OUCH, I would do 4 frames for that price.
 

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There is a place in Windsor that says about £100 for a frame and swing arm, blast and coat
Don't know how good they are.
 

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You can always tell the dodgy mechanics shop by the 5 gallon bucket of K-Y Jelly next to the register.

Hope you get some satisfaction from him. That much and it's not pristine and perfect I'd be pretty urinated!
 
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