You must live in a quiet neighborhood, I can't hear the bikes for more then a few seconds and I live a block from a highway. Not to mention, if you've never heard a downtown during the day in New York, Boston or Phili that 86db is pretty much a joke. It's simply another thing they can make money off of us for.I'll start the new year by taking a very contrary view to the loud pipe issue - I've got a neighbor with a HD and VERY loud pipes who likes to sit in his garage and tweak his bike - or maybe try to keep it running? - for what seems like HOURS at a time. From over a block away, I can't listen to my own radio at a reasonable level over his racket. And there are a couple of "rice rockets" whose travel I can follow for miles without leaving home just from their audible footprint.
That diesel would be going down hill without the the throttle on then. I was a hazmat/safety coordinator when I was in the service so I had to get out the meter and test our equipment for OSHA PPE compliance, basically weather or not we needed ear plugs or not. A 12 ton stake-bed generated 96db SITTING STILL at 1800RPM from 50ft. Bear in mind it was pretty close to brand new maybe a 2006 model. The 4cly gas forklift on site was even louder at 99db and my bike (****s and grins here) was under 90db till 7000rpm then skyrocketed to 126 before redline, with the same Mig highmount I bought in 2001 that I would be shocked if there was any fiberglass left in it. Anyway, the windblast in your helmet is louder then 86db, and thats a quiet helmet, I tried that too, my sheoi RF1000 was 104db inside at 80mph.And I believe the current regs - according the the AMA website - is 86 db at 50', which is pretty loud - many tables list a diesel truck going 45 mph to be quieter than that at 50'.
Yes, they are called offroad mufflers to get around the idoitic EPA noise regulations.There are plenty of manufacturers who make equipment for cars and bikes that have to be approved for use - it is reasonable that aftermarket pipes should meet some noise regulation. After all, the TORS are, by definition, OFF ROAD mufflers.
Yeah, well the ****ers got me in Denver and I was just passing through with an out of state tag. The best part was the cop made me rev the bike UNTIL I failed it. For a lovely $500 fine.Let's face it - cops aren't going to be sitting by the side of the road with sound level meters to catch bikes emitting 88db - especially since the proposed regs target stopped and parked bikes. They're going to use the regs - as they do the existing regs - to stick it to people who insist on running obviously out-of-spec noise boxes.
So you've never been in your cage and noticed a bike in your blind spot because of it's exhaust. I have.And please - PLEASE - don't repeat the "loud pipes save lives" mantra. That's a saw that has been disproved too many times to revisit here.
And to youAnd Happy New Year!
I live in NH and the cops do just that. They set up road blocks in Manch, near the seacoast and other popular ride spots. They pulled EVERY bike over on a beautiful august day and tested them. Writing many tickets as they go along.Let's face it - cops aren't going to be sitting by the side of the road with sound level meters to catch bikes emitting 88db