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I have come to realize that I am older now than I was then. This realization happened slowly over the course of the past 3/4 of a year, starting around the summer of 2017, three months after buying my sweet Bonnie!

My intention was to build a streamlined sport-tourer, in the fashion of vintage BMW's, Moto-Guzzi's, and the like. I feel that I succeeded, at least in my vision of what I wanted.....



This bike was beautiful, looked balanced, aesthetically pleasing to me, and above all, not too fast, and I hated it. The day I took my first real shakedown ride, on a beautiful spring day, I hated her. Balance? None. The fattest fat pig I had ever ridden. Light? Drug me around the corners like an anchor weighted my heart. Form? My wrists screamed, my lower back throbbed after an easy 3 hour ride, my neck hurt for days afterwards... I hated that black bitches heart, and I had created her....

So I thought, risers! That fixes everything!! More upright! So the LONG risers came out... So ugly....



Getting Closer!!!!!!!!! Oh my, no longer screaming at my back... Wrists functioning again, and fingers, I FEEL my fingers again!!! Oh GLORY!!

But DAMN, that is ugly as a $2 girl on a Saturday night! and... I still need a little more upright! I had remembered my history, and recalled that in days gone past, the gentleman on a tour, would most invariably be seated upright, staunchly upright, as a gentleman should. Here I was, just past mid-life, attempting to relive my glory days.

It was sad. No longer young... I have successfully installed the longer cable kit. Always marveling at the amazingly ugly motor mount. Come on Triumph, really?




Temporarily, I have installed the stock bars instead of the M bars, more rise and a little more pullback with my new 3.5" riseers.



I now realize that my goal should have always been this end. The end of bent over riding. Over the past 9 months, as I have struggled with building, tweaking, disassembling, reassembling, tweaking, testing, and most importantly, reading opinions on the internet about what I may be doing wrong because, dammit, your solution didn't work for me! I have come to realize in the past 9 months that I am a gentleman rider, perhaps still a bit quick in the corners and taking off from lights, but a gentleman none the less.

I succumbed. I ordered some thing called a "Chumps" and I hope this name is not prophetic!! https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/biltwell-chumps-handlebars

I also scored a Parabellum Scout fairing on CL.... Wow, that is freaking big!! Holy Sh1te it is big..... like eclipse the world big...



But I can at least laugh at myself. I am graying at the temples, have been for 15 years, and my goatee & stache no longer exist as the grey was too overwhelming. I am no longer young and I relish the fact that I can, and will, go on 600 mile days on my Bonnie lass when I am done. Perhaps it is time to invest in some tweed.......

 

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Excellent description of love gone wrong...But I think sh'e beautiful! Looks like you'd be just passing the base checkpoint with some secret documents.
 
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Very similar to my setup. I have the sport shield instead. I haven't found a set of bars better than the stockers. I do change up a bit from time to time. Right now I have the m bars back on with the Dominator tourings. That's the good thing about having a garage of parts. Turns the Bonnie into a lego toy.
 
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I put some T140 US bars and a K/Q seat on mine.
Now I can ride all day.
No more hip,shoulder,lower back and wrist gripes.
And yes I am in the over 60's club, and busted up a bit.
What did you have to do cable-wise and brake-hose-wise to use the T140 bars?
 

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Longer Front brake line, yes, a must.
The others I managed to re-route and they are j u s t long enough.
I managed to fiddle with the wires in the headlight and got a more respectable length than the photo.

I did get some bar end fillers on AilExpress.
 

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Putting western bars on with the line/cables made my T100 much easier for me to ride. I can sit very upright and be comfortable. still 200 miles in a day is about my limit. Old age sucks, but the alternative is worse.
 
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Very similar to my setup.. . . That's the good thing about having a garage of parts. Turns the Bonnie into a lego toy.
I agree with the garage full of parts! But in the end, that gets expensive with fairings, saddles, and the like. I am attempting to keep costs down, but not sucessfully! hahaha! note: the NH rearset is for sale in the classifieds!

I put some T140 US bars and a K/Q seat on mine.
Now I can ride all day.
No more hip,shoulder,lower back and wrist gripes.
And yes I am in the over 60's club, and busted up a bit.
I do like those T140 bars!! I am attempting to get the wrist angle of the M bar, on the damn tall risers, with a lower riser and a taller bar. The one I got from Revzilla, the Chumps, are not very close... But they do have the height I am looking for.

Sigh,,, So many parts to try and so little dollars!!
 

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I went through the riser exercise - better with the ironing board seat.
Then when I put on the Q-K seat it pushed me back too much, the seat was great.
Then I did a mock up with some old bars I had and it was then the ergos seemed really good.

You can buy them new from the UK.
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Specification: USA BARS
Knurled Centres: Yes
Width: 29"
Rise: 8 1/2"
Pull Back: 7 1/2"
Centre Width: 6"
OEM: 97-7001 USA Bars about GS84056 - HANDLE BAR - Triumph T140V,
 

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I realize you weren't happy with it, but...

Damn... that is a good looking bike.
I was only unhappy with my riding position! The way the motorcycle looked was exactly what I had envisioned it to be! A whistle at beautiful, old school, touring motorcycle.

Once I get my Bonnie lass back from the stealership, where she is currently imprisoned, I'll get back to this build thread with the photos of the fairing and bars that have arrived!

Teaser photo attached. And the dream is still alive! Just going for more upright & vertical old school police bike styling now...
 

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Width: 29"
Rise: 8 1/2"
Pull Back: 7 1/2"
Centre Width: 6"
The Chumps have 8" of rise and 7" of pullback to the end of the bar. I was looking for something that reminded me of old school Z bar without all the sharp angles something more natural, in black, that moves me exactly one and a half inches further back in my handlebar position. Hopefully....

I looked at the king and queen seat from Triumph, and went with Corbin as they have been on my last three motorcycles and I have been more than satisfied with their performance, fit, and function. Without a doubt, to me, they're worth every dollar of the 600 you have to pay for one! Ymmv so test wisely... Hahaha!

I agree, your bar looks fantastic! I'm hoping the Chump does the same for me.
In my super secret stealth cave in the photograph in the reply above you can see the Chumps poking out underneath the edge of that fairing in the sock wrapping....

Fitting will ensure....
 

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I appreciate the "aging" thing but don't forget, it's the gray riders like us that tend to buy and invest in these and keep things going. You know, after the kids are out of the house, most things are paid off, we tend to have a bit more time to ride and disposable income to keep doing it; in style, like your black beauty.
 
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I must be getting older too as this was my exact plan for my Bonnie. Only difference is I started with the Mag wheels.. Love the look of spokes best but I love the way the Mags ride better.
As far as lego.. She turns back into naked urban corner carver in about 15 min.


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I appreciate the "aging" thing but don't forget, it's the gray riders like us that tend to buy and invest in these and keep things going. You know, after the kids are out of the house, most things are paid off, we tend to have a bit more time to ride and disposable income to keep doing it; in style, like your black beauty.
Truth. DINKS are what we are here.... Helps that we have no mortgage and followed the Dave Ramsey suggestion of selling crap you don't use to pay off the things you need. No more debt for us.

I must be getting older too as this was my exact plan for my Bonnie. Only difference is I started with the Mag wheels.. Love the look of spokes best but I love the way the Mags ride better.
As far as lego.. She turns back into naked urban corner carver in about 15 min.
I was also able to remove my fairing quickly, like 97 seconds, and naked was achieved. But that is not really my direction with this motorcycle. This is going to be my everything, everyday, every road, motorcycle. Once built, I most likely will not change anything except maintenance items. I believe that about the Mag wheels. I loved them on my 80's Honda's and such! But the spokes will suffice for me. She really doesn't like over 90 mph, with the stock suspension and tires, but that is illegal anyways... :wink2:

Happy Friday everyone!!! Hopefully get that black lass back from the stealership today... Calling them in 17,.. 16,.. 15,..
 

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So the Parabellum Scout fairing installed without fuss, as long as you have 4 hand for the initial fitting to the headlamp bracket, and in short order I was on a test ride!



Wonderful, some initial buffeting until I got the angle correct, and my speed under 90 mph.... Over 90, well, let's all just admit a stock T100 just ain't made to travel that fast all the time....

Tore it all down on Saturday and painted, assembled, and parked just before the afternoon thunderstorms started! I think the look is a little BIG for the front, but once I get my top box from Craven, that should help the aesthetic balance.



Sunday funday ride!!


Over 110 mph indicated, on the curves, and the fairing is solid and has no problems. Buffeting is minimal under 90 mph, and non-existent at less than 70 mph. I too have the "Parabellum Scout Fairing Whistle" (that is for the google searchers) that is caused by the regulator. I fashioned an air dam out of a test piece of plastic lid. I will be testing this fix this week, slowly cutting down the dam until it is as small as possible, and then fashion one out of aluminum, and paint it to match. The handle bar upgrade, well, I was not so lucky.... yet!


 

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Great thread. Nice work on your bike.

I'm trying to get my new T120 comfortable. Same problems with the bar being too low. The stock brake and clutch cables are too short to do anything with.

So far, no-one on the water cooled twin side of the forum has come up with any kind of solution. I need longer cables and risers to be more upright.

Triumph kind of makes these retro bikes for us old guys, but you have to be young and flexible to ride them comfortably. C'mon Triumph.
 

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Great thread. Nice work on your bike.

I'm trying to get my new T120 comfortable. Same problems with the bar being too low. The stock brake and clutch cables are too short to do anything with.

So far, no-one on the water cooled twin side of the forum has come up with any kind of solution. I need longer cables and risers to be more upright.
You may be better off with more pull back. If you raise the bars two inches you still have to lean forward to reach them. Maybe ?
 
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