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Ok - I found a few old threads on this, but nothing recent and frankly when it happened I was taken by surprise.

I live in the coastal plains of South Texas, where if it wasn't for ditches, bulldozers, and river berms, we'd be flat as a pancake. So I rode the Tiger up to our municipal office to take care of a 5-minute item. Parked the bike, got off, and ran in. So far a good day.

I finished and came outside, slapped on my gear, started the bike, and then began to swing my right leg over the seat (no I don't step on the footpegs). About 2/3rds the way over, the kickstand collapsed and the bike dropped on the left side. I shut the bike off. ***!

We'll a guy helped me pick it up as it was flat on its side. Just a scuff on the engine guard to go along with a few off-road ones, a little scuff on the plastic mirror back and handguard, and all was fine (I have frame sliders that keep the tank safe). Even the turn signal wasn't damaged. I let the oil settle down for a minute, started it, carefully mounted it, and rode home.

So what happened? Well the guy who helped me pick it up said it looked like I was parked downhill and that probably collapsed it. Downhill? Yes, there was a slight grade but nothing in the 2+ years I've owned the bike that had been an issue (on more hilly terrain about an hour north of me I either park it uphill, leave it in gear, or both). I noticed my kickstand - which I have a foot-enlarger on, was real "touchy" and felt almost loose. It was almost too easy to snap backwards. A few threads on this forum convinced me this is either a worn mount issue on my sidestand, or its just that the Tiger side stand is notoriously light on the backward springing force and I just pushed it slightly enough before my leg went over to collapse it. I think it may be the former as this has never been an issue up until today, but I hate to admit that the latter is plausible too (I guess I have been lucky for over 2 years). If anyone hasn't checked theirs - you may want to check yours out.

So I will check it out some more and just park it in 1st more often. Feel free to comment if you notice something.
 

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Ouch.....I feel your pain,but........parking a bike facing down hill ?? Why would you take the risk ??

As you mention, it's a good idea to leave the bike in gear if you "have" to park it facing down hill. It's also a good idea to put the front brake on as you mount the bike.....it's going nowhere then :wink2:
 

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It likely rolled off the stand because being in neutral and facing down hill.
Lesson learned.
Take note and don’t do that.
 

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It's also a good idea to put the front brake on as you mount the bike.....it's going nowhere then <img src="http://www.triumphrat.net/images/TriumphRat_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
This has become muscle memory for me after nearly rolling my 800 XC off the stand a couple of times. I also leave it in gear and roll it as far forward as I can to take the slack out of the drive train before setting it down on the stand.
 

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It likely rolled off the stand because being in neutral and facing down hill.
Lesson learned.
Take note and don’t do that.
Certainly it rolled a slight bit forward to fall and by virtue of writing this I have it noted. But it's too bad I cant show you a picture - there is no "hill" per my comments. At most there was a slight grade in the pavement for run-off (my driveway also has a slight grade and I hop on an off all the time on more than one bike for years without worry). I ride the bike about 3 times a week and park it all over town - I have put 14K miles on it. I have parked it on real hills many times (where I take the normal precautions). This was just abnormal to me and I never saw it coming.

I am not sure if anyone noticed their resistance on their Tiger kickstand snapping back has gone down with age, so that a very slight push forward would snap it back. There was a thread about someone with an older Tiger about this but I never noticed anything more recent.
 

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as for leaving your bike in gear when on the side stand.......

Somewhere in my distant memory I think I can remember leaving my bike in gear on the side stand while parked, while stood next to the bike pressing the starter with the clutch pulled in slightly so the starter button actually starts the engine, and the bike jumping forward off the stand ?? Can't remember if I caught the bike before it fell over, or whether this scenario is actually possible ?? :hmmmmm
 

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I had my '16 on it's side stand idling on a VERY slight downhill incline. After a minute or two, down it went. I couldn't believe it but was able to watch the video on a Ring camera afterwards. Lesson learned.

When I'm done riding, I put my side stand down while in gear (yes, the clutch is in) and the bike shuts off. No more oopsies.
 

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I've had "close calls" of the famed kickstand debacle recently. I figure it's due to my complacency. It hasn't happened on the Tiger (yet,) but it has happened with amazing regularity on my Husky 701E. Damn kick stand is too long, seats too high, and my legs too short! Luckily, the bike is only 320lbs, so it's almost easy to pick-up. Embarrassing as hell though...
 

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That happened with my Thunderbird. Very slight decline (I thought). When she went over it was like the bismark rolling in slow motion. Damage was one driving light ($380 thanks very much) and some scuffs on the windshield edge. Pissed I was but thankful I had front and back crash bars which saved the bodywork and tank. Apart from parking in 1st gear next time I got a little plastic do-dad that clips the brake lever to the grip so that the front brake is engaged.
 

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That happened with my Thunderbird. Very slight decline (I thought). When she went over it was like the bismark rolling in slow motion. Damage was one driving light ($380 thanks very much) and some scuffs on the windshield edge. Pissed I was but thankful I had front and back crash bars which saved the bodywork and tank. Apart from parking in 1st gear next time I got a little plastic do-dad that clips the brake lever to the grip so that the front brake is engaged.
Can we see the "do-dad" please?:faceplant

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I do everything. If I can, I park slightly uphill, leave it in gear and grab the front brake while I'm swinging a leg over. However, I've also ground off the kickstand stop on the frame a little to let the kickstand move more forward. This helps lock it in place.
 

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Why would someone ever leave a vehicle (car tractor, lawn mower, motorcycle) parked and not in gear? (or in park/hand brake engaged, same same)
As a firefighter that has chased many a car on fire down the streets of Teesside, because its been left in gear and the starter motor wires have burned through.......I would say that's why you maybe wouldn't leave a vehicle in gear ?? :wink2:




Having said that........I leave my car in gear and handbrake on parked right against the garage door so no one can have my bike away :wink2:
 

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Rule #1: Do not park bike in neutral--ever. (Learned about this a couple of years ago when I stopped to take a picture.)

Rule #2: Do not start bike if you're not on it.
 

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As a firefighter that has chased many a car on fire down the streets of Teesside, because its been left in gear and the starter motor wires have burned through.......I would say that's why you maybe wouldn't leave a vehicle in gear ?? :wink2:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXwAuAN4EEs


Having said that........I leave my car in gear and handbrake on parked right against the garage door so no one can have my bike away :wink2:
I cant tell if youre joking or not
 

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I cant tell if youre joking or not
Not British sarcasm. I've genuinely "chased" many a car on fire that's been left in gear and buggered off by itself. It's even more fun when that car hits the car in front or behind and sets that one alight too !! Back in the day we were attending 1 or 2 car fires a night just in our town. Car crime was rife here before all the modern security devices were added.

Happy days :wink2:
 

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Rule #1: Do not park bike in neutral--ever. (Learned about this a couple of years ago when I stopped to take a picture.)

Rule #2: Do not start bike if you're not on it.

Although I don't necessarily agree with the above........I'll add:

Don't sit on your bike while your fueling it up. If it all goes up.......you've got nowhere to go, and end up on the floor with a bike on top of you and a good few litres of fuel on fire. Always stand next to it and have and escape route planned. Luckily, in this case, it was only his son or daughter sat on the fuel tank so no harm done !! (British sarcasm again) :wink2:


 

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Not British sarcasm. I've genuinely "chased" many a car on fire that's been left in gear and buggered off by itself. It's even more fun when that car hits the car in front or behind and sets that one alight too !! Back in the day we were attending 1 or 2 car fires a night just in our town. Car crime was rife here before all the modern security devices were added.

Happy days :wink2:
There are so many things that dont add up here....
-most modern, like less than 20 years old, wont start without the clutch depressed
-that's a hell of a starter and torquey motor that could turn over and actually start in gear (bumping forward sure, but starting and driving off?)
-why would wires melting make a starter turn over? not saying it cant happen, but you have chased MANY cars that way? or one and heard about it happeneing before?
-any car that wasn't stick would be in park and would just start running but not go anyway
 
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