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Fuel Gauge Retrofit '02-'06 Daytona 955i

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This is one of those projects that some people will simply read and think, "Why?". That's okay, I get it. Who needs a fuel gauge? Well, I do. I'm OCD that way. So, the first question I had to answer was, "Can it be done?" That answer is yes.

After some lengthy research, I determined that our OEM fuel level sensor is exactly the same part number as the same model year(s) Sprint ST, which has an OEM fuel gauge. That means that it is fully capable of providing a correct signal for a gauge, even though our bikes only have a low fuel warning light.

I originally purchased a used gauge from a Sprint ST for $12 USD for testing. The gauge was too large for practical mounting capability, and had zero "bling" factor. DEcosse has covered the specs on the sender itself in his own post, so I won't get into that here. For the purposes of this post, however, you must know that the resistance ranges for our senders is odd in that it isn't common to anything. The range is 13 ohms full, to 91 ohms empty.

There are no aftermarket gauges that are programmed for that specific range. Therefore, I chose a fully programmable gauge for the job: Auto Meter Pro-Cycle 2-1/16 fuel gauge, p/n 19609. I also bought the matching voltmeter, p/n 19692. The way I wanted to mount them gave symmetry to the look, and I've also had R/R issues in the past, so the voltmeter was a must.

Before I get into the retrofit, I will add that my configuration safely disables the low fuel light. There is a potential to have both the gauge and the light both work as there is a gauge output pin on the ECU. Unfortunately, there is no wire in that hole and no practical way to install one. I chose to bypass the light circuit.

Parts Used:
  • Auto Meter 2 1/16 in. Pro-Cycle Fuel Level Gauge - 19609
  • Auto Meter 2121 Carbon Fiber Gauge Mounting Cup x2
  • 47 ohm resistor (Radio Shack)

I also installed the voltmeter, but that's a straightforward install and not discussed here. The gauges are blue LED backlit, so I also converted my instrument cluster to blue LED with excellent results.

I chose the cockpit sub-frame as my mounting point. The brackets came with the mounting cups:




After securely mounting both gauges and ensuring that the setup would clear the headlamp assembly, handlebars, and everything else, I wired in the gauges. I tapped directly into the main harness for my ground, key on gauge power 12V, and into the "park" light circuit for the backlight:




Note that all taps were made with clean, soldered connections and sealed afterwards. Any electrical mods done on a bike need to withstand the elements. Good, permanent connections should always be soldered, period.

Next, I needed to modify the OEM sender wiring to "fool" the ECU into keeping the low fuel light off. This must be done properly in order to keep both the low fuel light and the check engine light off. This was accomplished with the 22-ohm resistor. The sender then bypasses the ECU to provide a clean signal to my gauge:



Lastly, I followed the instructions to calibrate the gauge to the "odd" resistance range. This is done by placing the gauge into a programming mode with the tank empty (I called "empty" 1/2 US gallon), and after registering the "empty" value, filling the tank and then registering the "full" value. Now the gauge reads the full range, and fairly accurately. Because of the tank/sender configuration, the gauge remains on "full" for quite a long time. Then it begins to read accurately thereafter, all the way to "empty".

Here's the finished product (image doesn't do it justice; the blue is absolutely gorgeous):



I'm very satisfied with the results. It was an expensive project; each gauge was over $160 USD, and the cups were $55 ea. It was fun to accomplish, and I hadn't read of anyone trying it before. Hopefully you find this useful, if not merely entertaining.
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Nicely executed - funnily enough I looked at that very gauge the other day for a friend with a Rocket.
(The Rocket Fuel Gauge Retrofit kit is no longer available)

Too bad the innovator of the Fuelbot won't do those any more for the Triumphs
Nicely executed - funnily enough I looked at that very gauge the other day for a friend with a Rocket.
(The Rocket Fuel Gauge Retrofit kit is no longer available)

Too bad the innovator of the Fuelbot won't do those any more for the Triumphs
Thanks! Really the toughest part of the project was finding a mounting point within the cockpit that wouldn't interfere with the handlebars, headlight or dash, and still retain good visibility. It's very tight in there. FWIW, the instrument panel LEDs are the SuperBright 3 SMD and found them to be plenty bright in blue, and matched the Auto Meter gauges perfectly. Thanks for your recommendation!
**update**

Change to my specs. The 47-ohm resistor was tripping the low-fuel light, albeit with a long delay. Weird. I replaced it with a 22-ohm resistor that solved the problem. The diagram has been corrected. Evidently I'm not able to edit the post after a period of time :(
Change to my specs. The 47-ohm resistor was tripping the low-fuel light, albeit with a long delay...
That does not compute; that is well within the range where it would be above the 'low' threshold. But the value is very arbitrary - in truth anything from 15 to 75 ohms would be fine. The reason I picked 47 to begin with is that it is almost right in the middle.
I have to presume a bad joint may have been causing your issue.

Regardless, I edited your original post text to reflect your change to 22 to match your diagram
That does not compute; that is well within the range where it would be above the 'low' threshold. But the value is very arbitrary - in truth anything from 15 to 75 ohms would be fine. The reason I picked 47 to begin with is that it is almost right in the middle.
I have to presume a bad joint may have been causing your issue.

Regardless, I edited your original post text to reflect your change to 22 to match your diagram
Thanks, DEcosse. I questioned it as well, but when measured from start to end the circuit was a solid 47 ohms. I can't explain it as I agree that it's well within the threshold. 22 ohms did the job so I'm not looking back :)

Thanks for updating my post.
Not to belabour the point but mine has been running the 47 ohms for years - I have an older gen tank with a thermistor low fuel sensor, so my ECU input is hard-wired to the 47 ohms.
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This is one of those projects that some people will simply read and think, "Why?". That's okay, I get it. Who needs a fuel gauge? Well, I do. I'm OCD that way. So, the first question I had to answer was, "Can it be done?" That answer is yes.

After some lengthy research, I determined that our OEM fuel level sensor is exactly the same part number as the same model year(s) Sprint ST, which has an OEM fuel gauge. That means that it is fully capable of providing a correct signal for a gauge, even though our bikes only have a low fuel warning light.

I originally purchased a used gauge from a Sprint ST for $12 USD for testing. The gauge was too large for practical mounting capability, and had zero "bling" factor. DEcosse has covered the specs on the sender itself in his own post, so I won't get into that here. For the purposes of this post, however, you must know that the resistance ranges for our senders is odd in that it isn't common to anything. The range is 13 ohms full, to 91 ohms empty.

There are no aftermarket gauges that are programmed for that specific range. Therefore, I chose a fully programmable gauge for the job: Auto Meter Pro-Cycle 2-1/16 fuel gauge, p/n 19609. I also bought the matching voltmeter, p/n 19692. The way I wanted to mount them gave symmetry to the look, and I've also had R/R issues in the past, so the voltmeter was a must.

Before I get into the retrofit, I will add that my configuration safely disables the low fuel light. There is a potential to have both the gauge and the light both work as there is a gauge output pin on the ECU. Unfortunately, there is no wire in that hole and no practical way to install one. I chose to bypass the light circuit.

Parts Used:
  • Auto Meter 2 1/16 in. Pro-Cycle Fuel Level Gauge - 19609
  • Auto Meter 2121 Carbon Fiber Gauge Mounting Cup x2
  • 47 ohm resistor (Radio Shack)
I also installed the voltmeter, but that's a straightforward install and not discussed here. The gauges are blue LED backlit, so I also converted my instrument cluster to blue LED with excellent results.

I chose the cockpit sub-frame as my mounting point. The brackets came with the mounting cups:




After securely mounting both gauges and ensuring that the setup would clear the headlamp assembly, handlebars, and everything else, I wired in the gauges. I tapped directly into the main harness for my ground, key on gauge power 12V, and into the "park" light circuit for the backlight:




Note that all taps were made with clean, soldered connections and sealed afterwards. Any electrical mods done on a bike need to withstand the elements. Good, permanent connections should always be soldered, period.

Next, I needed to modify the OEM sender wiring to "fool" the ECU into keeping the low fuel light off. This must be done properly in order to keep both the low fuel light and the check engine light off. This was accomplished with the 22-ohm resistor. The sender then bypasses the ECU to provide a clean signal to my gauge:



Lastly, I followed the instructions to calibrate the gauge to the "odd" resistance range. This is done by placing the gauge into a programming mode with the tank empty (I called "empty" 1/2 US gallon), and after registering the "empty" value, filling the tank and then registering the "full" value. Now the gauge reads the full range, and fairly accurately. Because of the tank/sender configuration, the gauge remains on "full" for quite a long time. Then it begins to read accurately thereafter, all the way to "empty".

Here's the finished product (image doesn't do it justice; the blue is absolutely gorgeous):



I'm very satisfied with the results. It was an expensive project; each gauge was over $160 USD, and the cups were $55 ea. It was fun to accomplish, and I hadn't read of anyone trying it before. Hopefully you find this useful, if not merely entertaining.
Looking at your post there is no circuit diagram. It there anyway you can re post it?
Looking at your post there is no circuit diagram. It there anyway you can re post it?
I will be fitting a tiger guage so I’ll need to know how to connect to harness. I would also like to keep the fuel light functionality if pos.
Looking at your post there is no circuit diagram. It there anyway you can re post it?
He has not been on here for some time so I doubt you will here anything.
strych9
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He has not been on here for some time so I doubt you will here anything.
strych9
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Joined Jul 9, 2015
Last seen Nov 6, 2015
I'll have a look at the workshop manual diagram. I think it has the the triple and the Daytona diagrams in there so I should be able to work it out comparing them. I guess the key piece of information is the sender is compatible with a triple gauge. I'll have to work out how to keep the ECU happy when the gauge is wired up. How you doing with this COVID nonsense over there?
If I ever get it sorted I'll post (re post apparently) the solution on here. Do Triumph rat remove images after so long?
I go touring by the way on my Daytona and I find just a fuel doesn't do it...
Great if you find a solution!
I have a D1200 myselfe and i am missing a fuel gauge
If I ever get it sorted I'll post (re post apparently) the solution on here. Do Triumph rat remove images after so long?
If you re post the solution will be a blessing for the newcomers like myself
Well, I'm back! I will see if I can find the original photos. Apparently I had them hosted on a website I no longer owned. I downloaded the entire thing before I shut it down, so I'll see if I can locate them and repost. I just picked up a Speedmaster so I will be becoming active on this forum again :)
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Here are the pics and diagram that I found that are associated with my project:

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