Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums banner

1 - 10 of 10 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
157 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
In between seeing my son off, visits to factory outlets and kitchen places I managed to get to a couple of dealers in Sydney. (Thanks for the advice guys. Read your posts but couldn't get on to reply. )

To cut a (very) long story short. I didn't get the test ride on the ST because the guy who had it before me took it and didnt return for two hours. So no ride of the Sprint (but I have ridden one).

But it wasn't wasted. Got to ride an FJR for the first time. It was an 01. It had only 17K kms on it and it was a decent price (14K oz).

I was ready to be impressed. I wasn't. I was totally underwhelmed. In fact I thought it was a total dog and couldn't understand why anyone would want to ride this thing instead of MY 6 year old sprint with 50K kms, let alone a new 1050. It handled poorly. Steering was awful. It had buzzing throughout the rev range that made my 955 feel like a Rolls Royce. I just didn't get it. People rave about these things. It had the dreaded FJR tick and the FI was really bad. One positive. Di thought the pillion seat was great although she thought the footpeg vibes would be a problem on longer trips.

Well that's it then. Strike out the FJR. I am willing to compromise for my pillion but I ain't riding one of those.

Anyhow. I couldn't stop thinking about how bad the thing was. It was an 01. Maybe I should just try a later model. We just have enough time cos Bikebiz close at 5.

So I went to Bikebiz and rode the '03 with 37K kms on it. Wow! Now this I like! I could not believe I was riding two identical bikes albeit two years apart. It steered it went. No vibes. I was very impressed. (Steve. If you are out there you were right!). All I gotta do now is fend off the phone calls from the salesmen who were really "paramatta road".

Having said all that, its no Sprint. Its big and heavy. And while the 2nd FJR was quite managable at low speeds, it couldn't carve a roundabout anywhere near as good as my Sprint. Of course I'm sure if I was out on a bumpy sweeper at high speed the FJR would come into its own.

I could get used to one I'm sure. Here is the rub: For me (repeat) For me: It had a sort of "pipe and slippers feel to it that I cant really explain. Very subjective of course.

Anyway. Won't make any decisions right now. The main factor with FJRs is that they cost quite a bit more than a Sprint. I could only afford a 2nd hand one.

Of course I wouldn't even bother looking at the FJR if I only ever toured with my mates and didn't do much pillion. With my wife now talking about learning to ride perhaps I'll just hold off to see how that goes before I make any big decisions.

FOOTNOTE. Spoke quickly to the guy who brought back the ST too late for me to go for my ride. Instead of ripping his head off (ahem! he was a big guy) I put a metaphoric microphone in his face and asked him how it was. He said that he had tagged along with his mate on his bike( cruiser) when they swapped bikes. His mate was just about to order one. He was so smitten by the ST that he was about to go into the shop and order one too! But then of course this would be not surprise to us Sprint lovers would it!

Sorry its so long
Steve
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,566 Posts
Sounds a hugely busy day Galesa, and interesting outcome on the FJRs.

I've got a mate (who can outride sports bikes on an old BMW GS1000) who also has an FJR and can really make it sing on the bends. He's ridden lots of bikes over the years, and other than the weight found it to be a great handler. I wonder if the 1st one you rode was just set up really badly??

The second one sounds a lot more like what I've heard of on (and felt when I've ridden) the FJs.

Glad you had a good day!
Russ
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,038 Posts
Steve,

I have just got home from a 6 hour ride - and that Sprint is really growing on me - nearly 18 months now and it continues to improve.

I cant imagine another bike that I would have enjoyed today's ride on more.

I can imagine one day in the future when I want a more relaxed/comfortable? bike and possibly the FJR but I think I would look closely at a ST1300.Did you consider one of them?

Grant :cool:
 
D

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
I have just brought an 06 sprint after 3 years on a Trophy1200 which is a similar weight to the FJR ,As much as I loved the the the old four for its drive all day touring ability It was very heavy like the (FJR) fuel consumption was a nightmare guys on other bikes in a run get T`d off with you stopping before them to fill up.
The Sprint has brought me back to fun all round motorcycling and covers a good distance quickly and comfortably no high speed wobbles even pretty good 2 up.
The only thing I miss is the big screen but that also had its setbacks. :cool:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
924 Posts
I have an 07 FJR coming next month. I was going to sell my 02 ST but, believe it or not, the wife said you "will" keep the ST too. Comparing an FJR and a Sprint is like comparing an R1 or GSXR to a Gold Wing, just not quite as bad. The way I'm looking at it, if I want to have a day of fun where the turns are frequent and tight, I'm going to ride the ST. If I want to take a long trip where I want to avoid the super slabs as much as possible, but will take ride them a bit just to cover ground, it's FJR time. Sooner or later you come to the realization that no one bike does it all. If I had to pick one bike and only one bike to do both turns and touring, I would take an 02-04 ST.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,566 Posts
On 2006-11-26 19:24, iceman wrote:
you're a funny guy Russ :-D

I rode down to Mercer - south of Auckland - and bought a new helmet and boots from a guy who imports them himself - then back up to Pukekohe raceway and visited a friend who has 2 sons racing Honda 400s.A great day.

I could have carried on - the ride home was so good.

Grant :cool:
Sorry my map wasn't to scale :)

Wow a ride and buying some kit - good on ya. Glad you had a good day, it's nice to blow the cobwebs out every now and then.

Russ
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
157 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
On 2006-11-26 02:31, iceman wrote:
Steve,

I have just got home from a 6 hour ride - and that Sprint is really growing on me - nearly 18 months now and it continues to improve.

I cant imagine another bike that I would have enjoyed today's ride on more.

I can imagine one day in the future when I want a more relaxed/comfortable? bike and possibly the FJR but I think I would look closely at a ST1300.Did you consider one of them?

Grant :cool:
Heh Grant. Sorry, just got some 'puter time. The only reason I am looking at the FJR is because we found the limitations of my Sprint's comfort levels on a recent 2500 km tour, especially for my pillion who comes everywhere with me. I have tried gel seat, sheepskins and airhaw pads without success. I know the FJR has its own issues with long distance comfort on the standard seat but because the seat is bigger and wider may stand better customising than my current Sprint. The ST1050 unfortunately even the 07 is just plain out as far as my passenger is concerned because of the seat step and the higher pillion pegs. She just doesn't feel secure.

The ST1300, I hear, has an excellent pillion seat. But if I thought the FJR was getting pipe and slippers then the ST would be moreso. Its certainly "larded up" since the ST1100 I used to ride.

For now I just think I will hang on to my 00 and see how the riding lessons go. If they work then pillion comfort will not necessarily be an issue and its back to the ST1050 for me.

Steve
 
K

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Here comes slightly different opinion:

2004 I had 04 Sprint ST 955
2005 I had 05 Sprint ST 1050
2006 I have 06 FJR

FJR is faster, more comfy, lower fuel consumption etc. i.e. better bike than Sprint in many way...

But still, I'm looking for 2007 Sprint ST again, no matter how much better bike FJR is, it is not Triumph.
 
1 - 10 of 10 Posts
Top