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Honey, my Black/Yellow '06 T100, had her first service yesterday and I had TOGAs fitted at the same time as having the AI removed.

My first impression, when I started her up outside the dealership was "'kin 'ell! That's loud!". I noticed they'd not fitted the baffles, so got them to do this before riding her away, though to be honest I don't think they actually lower the noise level a lot. On startup, the deep growl is definitely louder than TORs but doesn't have quite the same sharp 'crack'. Definitely deeper and more throaty though and decidedly reminiscent of older Triumphs I've heard.

Riding off on the Bonnie with the run-in restrictions finally off my mind I could open her up a bit and hear the pipes roar. Woof! The sound is excellent, though again I think the note you get from the TORs, which I've tried twice on the dealer's loan bike, has a slight edge (when you can hear it - usually only when gunning it) as it has a rasp which the deeper and louder Norman Hyde pipes don't. Time will tell as the Togas are bound to change tone a little as they bed in.

Overall, apart from at 2250-2500 revs in town, where the deep rumble from the pipes hits a level and tone that my ears don't appreciate, I love the sound (I've already learned to change gear to avoid this and it stops me from chugging along in 4th anyway). As I'm still taking it a little easy until the engine loosens up, I've not been much above 6k revs yet, but when accelerating hard and shifting at 6k the bike really kicks out some impressive noise from the rider's point of view. :-D

In town, I'd say the Togas are a good compromise between horribly loud and loud enough to let other road users know you're around. I think I can probably *just* get out of here in the early work day mornings without annoying people, though I'm going to have to cut my warm-up time to the minimum and wheel the bike out into the lane before starting up so I can move straight off with the choke on.

They look the part, that's for sure! I like the shorter, more elegant shape and the slight upsweep. They are also chromed to at least the same quality as the original peashooters. Sweet!

Power gains? Dunno. I had the 115 main jets put in at the same time, and had the cross-headed carb screws replaced with stainless allen-headed bolts. You'd think I'd notice some difference, but as the engine is still fairly tight and I only had 570 careful run-in miles before fitting the Togas there's no way to know whether the bike feels better in low, mid or high range than before. This is no big deal for me, though, as looks and sound were what I was after with this upgrade and Norman Hyde has delivered both in spades.

I took a run in the Peak District today and at one point was sitting in the Cat & Fiddle pub (a biker pub on an infamous twisty road that's now taken its name from the pub) looking out of the window at my bike sitting alongside some race bikes in the car park. Rider after rider came into the car park and gave Honey a good look as they rode past. I didn't buy the bike for the approbation of others, as I don't give a ***** what anyone else thinks about my ride, but knowing others are looking and thinking "yum!" is a nice bonus.

When I left the pub, it was also the first time I was able to rip it away from there while laying down a truly loud British twin sound and it felt great! :cool:

As our colonial cousins are wont to say when elated "yeeehaaaa!!!".
 

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Too right E_S and TBH I think it's a good thing too. There were a couple of fatal bike crashes there in September this year and it was the first time since late 2001 that a biker had died on that road, probs because the Police clamped down so hard on the plastic rocket nutters who were using it as a rite of passage.

No need for it, really. It's actually a pretty average piece of tarmac that goes through some lovely Peak District countryside, but it's wind-blasted, has sheep wandering around all over bits of it, and (on some stretches) plenty of farm muck to go around. If it didn't have a pub halfway along with a catchy name like the Cat and Fiddle I doubt if it would have had anything like the notoriety.

Have you seen those mad signs near Ashbourne? The ones that say something like "airborne speed monitoring"? FFS, they can't think of anything better to do with half a million quid's worth of police helicopter than run speed traps on a road that's always full of tractors and pensioners in any case? :???:

Besides, in the really twisty bits of the Peak District, 50mph is loads of fun. I roamed all over the Peaks on my Virago before getting the Bonnie (born-again biker, and if not proud, then at least not ashamed of it :razz: ). I couldn't help but notice that a lot of the crotch-rocket brigade were supremely skillfull at twisting their right wrists in a straight line and leaving you for dead, but that even on an 80's spec Jap custom I could go almost as quick as a lot of these guys in the twisty bits.

I'd LOVE to see a genuinely skillful rider on a new Bonnie taking on those Blade/Ninja/Bandit weekend heroes at Oulton Park or some other race track. :-D
 

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Toga, Toga, Toga...yeeehaaa :-D :-D :-D

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hello! i am in birmingham,UK. where did you get the toga silencers? norman hyde seems to have stopped doing them and i cant find toga themselves, i presume they are in the uk.

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Steve,

You might try finding NH Classics--I believe they are also called by this name. It seems to be a long story and someone else also made Togas, etc. Anyway, some people have said they bought NH Classics which were the same as the old NH Togas. Hope this helps.

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The baffles supplied with the Togas from NH will "soften" the exhaust note but not make it that much quieter. They will get somewhat louder with age. Run without the baffles and wear ear plugs, they sound better and I don't think they're really that loud. They will sound "sharper" with a bit more of a crack to the sound as they break in.
 

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steviek:

As mentioned by BillT100 they do get louder, give 'em 6 months - mine almost doubled in loudness. I wear ear plugs if I'm going very far, but they sound fantastic, especially when you crack the throttle.

I had considered using the baffles but got tired of messing with the jetting. I'm using a 122.5 main jet, Thruxton needle with 1 shim, stock idle jet, UNI filter, getting about 38 miles to the gallon highway, 15,300 miles on the clock of my '04 Bonneville Black.

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