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Hi there. Do any one of you know of any brand that already fabric a non homologated exhaust for this bike. I had a non homologated arrow on my old scrambler 900 that was fantastic. The current homologated arrow for the 1200 xe is a fake. The 90hp of this 1200cc aren't enough to give spark to the bike. Your comments are very welcome. Thank you.
 

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I’ve been educating myself on this and as far as I can tell, free spirits is the first and only one to make anything exhaust related (the de-cat pipe).

I am certain that a lot of the aftermarket manufacturers have something in the works. If I come across something, I will come back and edit/reply to this post.
 

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Hi there. Do any one of you know of any brand that already fabric a non homologated exhaust for this bike. I had a non homologated arrow on my old scrambler 900 that was fantastic. The current homologated arrow for the 1200 xe is a fake. The 90hp of this 1200cc aren't enough to give spark to the bike. Your comments are very welcome. Thank you.
"Spatk" you mean you find it slow?
 

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Hi there. Do any one of you know of any brand that already fabric a non homologated exhaust for this bike. I had a non homologated arrow on my old scrambler 900 that was fantastic. The current homologated arrow for the 1200 xe is a fake. The 90hp of this 1200cc aren't enough to give spark to the bike. Your comments are very welcome. Thank you.
"Spatk" you mean you find it slow?
YES. In general is a great machine but am missing 10-20hp... very comfortable but I would rather like a little bit more of nerve. Top speed for example 185km/h. It exceeds legal speed by far but for a motorbike of 1200cc I expected 200+.
 

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I’ve been educating myself on this and as far as I can tell, free spirits is the first and only one to make anything exhaust related (the de-cat pipe).

I am certain that a lot of the aftermarket manufacturers have something in the works. If I come across something, I will come back and edit/reply to this post.
Thank you my friend. Very much appreciated. I will be attentive. Kind regards.
 

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I’ve been educating myself on this and as far as I can tell, free spirits is the first and only one to make anything exhaust related (the de-cat pipe).

I am certain that a lot of the aftermarket manufacturers have something in the works. If I come across something, I will come back and edit/reply to this post.
Wait! I answered before checking the Web you said. What you found it is exactly what I was looking for!! I already contacted my dealer and said they can become a distributor and order one for me. As a private I can't do it, they only work thru distributors. So THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND HELP. Once I have installed it on my bike I tell you how it goes... ???✊?✊ thanks.
 

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Wait! I answered before checking the Web you said. What you found it is exactly what I was looking for!! I already contacted my dealer and said they can become a distributor and order one for me. As a private I can't do it, they only work thru distributors. So THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND HELP. Once I have installed it on my bike I tell you how it goes... ???✊?✊ thanks.
Happy to have helped. ? Below is the link for reference.

https://www.freespiritsparts.com/en/triumph/h-pipe-de-cat-for-triumph-scrambler-1200.html

If/when you get it installed, try and post a video of it. I’m sure there are more than a few people that would love to hear it.
 

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YES. In general is a great machine but am missing 10-20hp... very comfortable but I would rather like a little bit more of nerve. Top speed for example 185km/h. It exceeds legal speed by far but for a motorbike of 1200cc I expected 200+.
Being old and brought up when 100mph was the benchmark, now owning bikes with a top end of 130+ /0-60 in sub 3 seconds I suppose I'm a bit past the time of wanting more. These 1200s are quite capable of well over 120 rwhp because I help build the air/oil cooled from their pathetic 50-55 rwhp to 100+ so I guessing with work they will deliver. When these bikes really take off I am sure plenty of upgrades will come along, cam/maps/exhaust/head work. I think they will be competitive in adventure events like Baha and Paris Dakar ( no longer Dakar).
 

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Wait! I answered before checking the Web you said. What you found it is exactly what I was looking for!! I already contacted my dealer and said they can become a distributor and order one for me. As a private I can't do it, they only work thru distributors. So THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND HELP. Once I have installed it on my bike I tell you how it goes... ???✊?✊ thanks.
Happy to have helped. ? Below is the link for reference.

https://www.freespiritsparts.com/en/triumph/h-pipe-de-cat-for-triumph-scrambler-1200.html

If/when you get it installed, try and post a video of it. I’m sure there are more than a few people that would love to hear it.
I got my Free Spirit H-Pipe de-cat in the meantime. Sorry to say but I don't see that it makes any difference or if there is any, it's practically imperceptible, whether it concerns sound or power. I don't recommend that upgrade while a silencer with db killer removable is not available. If you find one of those or a tutorial abt how to remove the db killer on the fabric Arrow kindly let me know. I don't complain to have made such an upgrade but let's say it is a good upgrade provided you can also remove the db-killer of the silencer. Thanks for the information. Kind regards.
 

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YES. In general is a great machine but am missing 10-20hp... very comfortable but I would rather like a little bit more of nerve. Top speed for example 185km/h. It exceeds legal speed by far but for a motorbike of 1200cc I expected 200+.
Being old and brought up when 100mph was the benchmark, now owning bikes with a top end of 130+ /0-60 in sub 3 seconds I suppose I'm a bit past the time of wanting more. These 1200s are quite capable of well over 120 rwhp because I help build the air/oil cooled from their pathetic 50-55 rwhp to 100+ so I guessing with work they will deliver. When these bikes really take off I am sure plenty of upgrades will come along, cam/maps/exhaust/head work. I think they will be competitive in adventure events like Baha and Paris Dakar ( no longer Dakar).
How old are you vitesse? Am 52. Interesting what you say abt that you help build the air/oil cooled! Actually the this bike is a marvel. Extremely sweet. Super comfortable. Without smallest vibration. On the other side am missing little bit more nerve. Am sure as you say once these bikes definitely take off plenty of things can be done. Thanks for all. Kind regards.
 

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I got my Free Spirit H-Pipe de-cat in the meantime. Sorry to say but I don't see that it makes any difference or if there is any, it's practically imperceptible, whether it concerns sound or power. I don't recommend that upgrade while a silencer with db killer removable is not available. If you find one of those or a tutorial abt how to remove the db killer on the fabric Arrow kindly let me know. I don't complain to have made such an upgrade but let's say it is a good upgrade provided you can also remove the db-killer of the silencer. Thanks for the information. Kind regards.
That's because cats aren't much of an impediment to flow. What that should be good for is reducing heat.
If you want a fast bike, why not buy a sportbike? Dirt bikes aren't exactly built for speed.
 

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I got my Free Spirit H-Pipe de-cat in the meantime. Sorry to say but I don't see that it makes any difference or if there is any, it's practically imperceptible, whether it concerns sound or power. I don't recommend that upgrade while a silencer with db killer removable is not available. If you find one of those or a tutorial abt how to remove the db killer on the fabric Arrow kindly let me know. I don't complain to have made such an upgrade but let's say it is a good upgrade provided you can also remove the db-killer of the silencer. Thanks for the information. Kind regards.
That's because cats aren't much of an impediment to flow. What that should be good for is reducing heat.
If you want a fast bike, why not buy a sportbike? Dirt bikes aren't exactly built for speed.
Maybe you are right. I want everything on a bike and that's not possible. Despite of everything a 1200cc bike could be little bit more powerful. GS's and Tigers for example go up to 125-140hp. Don't understand why the scrambler only supply 90hp. For me it is a mistake. Anyway. And yes, heat has been reduced considerably. Thanks. Cheers.
 

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You know, this thread takes me back to when the 900 scrambler came out. A few people were saying that 50hp was too little and wouldn't it be better if only the bike had 80 or 90 hp. Well now we have a Scrambler that makes 90hp and here we are - if only we had 125hp. Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a dig. It's your bike and you do what you want with it. Just find it amusing that the same gripes pop up over again. I'm fine with the XE, but then I was fine with the 50hp of the 900. If I wanted more power I'd get a GS or a KTM or a Multistrada. Of course, then I'd be complaining that I'd got a fugly bike :)
 

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You know, this thread takes me back to when the 900 scrambler came out. A few people were saying that 50hp was too little and wouldn't it be better if only the bike had 80 or 90 hp. Well now we have a Scrambler that makes 90hp and here we are - if only we had 125hp. Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a dig. It's your bike and you do what you want with it. Just find it amusing that the same gripes pop up over again. I'm fine with the XE, but then I was fine with the 50hp of the 900. If I wanted more power I'd get a GS or a KTM or a Multistrada. Of course, then I'd be complaining that I'd got a fugly bike <img src="http://www.triumphrat.net/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
You are right. I also had a 900 (picture attached). All a deception when I bought it all a success when I installed the arrow. Wonderful bike with her 60 and something hp. I didn't miss a single hp at that time. The problem of that bike for me was the steering post and the distribution chain. Both very noisy. Later I had a bimmer nineT. Very good bike but driving position little bit tired for my taste. I called Zard yesterday. In few months they have a silencer/exhaust for my bike. I love the planet but hate drowned motors... a dilemma! Have fun.
 

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The guy who bought my 900 off me threw a Zard on, and then brought it back to show me. That thing sounded so much better than even my debaffled stock pipes :) Was considering getting another 900 before the XE was announced and had my eyes on the shorty pipes (always thought the stock pipes were too long). Then, lo and behold, XE comes out with shorter pipes - happy days, and - for the time being - they don't sound too bad to me. I should time how long it takes me to give in to the farkling :)
 

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The guy who bought my 900 off me threw a Zard on, and then brought it back to show me. That thing sounded so much better than even my debaffled stock pipes <img src="http://www.triumphrat.net/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> Was considering getting another 900 before the XE was announced and had my eyes on the shorty pipes (always thought the stock pipes were too long). Then, lo and behold, XE comes out with shorter pipes - happy days, and - for the time being - they don't sound too bad to me. I should time how long it takes me to give in to the farkling <img src="http://www.triumphrat.net/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
I will buy new Zard only if db killer can be removed. Without the db killer it is a little bid loud but the motor is much more elastic. With my old 900 it was so exciting to drive it, that you did miles and miles without realizing it and you couldn't find the time to stop.
 

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I have a new 1200 XE with the arrow exhaust from the dealer. It does not have the DB killers in it. It needs them. This bike is considerably slower than the stock demo bike I rode.

Needs more back pressure. Anybody know where I can buy the DB killers??
 

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Stupid question...but what riding mode are you in? If you want to be sure you're getting full throttle response, try it in Offroad Pro mode. If it doesn't power wheelie in 1st and 2nd gear, there's something wrong. In rain mode for example you can't even get the wheel up in 1st gear. On some bikes the rider modes aren't that obvious, but on the Scrambler they transform the bike.

I have a new 1200 XE with the arrow exhaust from the dealer. It does not have the DB killers in it. It needs them. This bike is considerably slower than the stock demo bike I rode.

Needs more back pressure. Anybody know where I can buy the DB killers??
 

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Ok I will try that. I've been mostly in sport mode. Maybe traction control has been kicking on right about the time the front end is about to come up.

I still want to get the DB killers though. I can absolutely feel that it's too free flowing and running lean.
 

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Ok I will try that. I've been mostly in sport mode. Maybe traction control has been kicking on right about the time the front end is about to come up.

I still want to get the DB killers though. I can absolutely feel that it's too free flowing and running lean.
The DB killers should be available via all north American dealers. The dealer that sold you the bike should have included them, as they come with the pipes, some go out of their way to remove them.


As for throttle response here's the order from less to most aggressive (the reverse order applies to the Traction Control):
-Rain
-Road
-Sport
-Off-Road & Off-Road Pro
All of the modes except for the Off-Road Pro will prevent a proper wheelie, though you can still power wheelie in Sport mode, it will cut the power at some point.

The only way to make sure you're really getting all it's got is the OffRoad Pro, the only intervention possible at that point is your right wrist.
 
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