[steve betts]

I'll try this post here, since nobody on the Twins Tech seems to have done this, maybe one of you cafe guys have...? I'm thinking of buying the 2.5" speedo and tach from DCC and would very much like to see a pic of these guages on a Bonne or Thrux to see if it really is the look I want. My other thought is the Acewell integrated unit, but my preference is analog rather than digital speed read out for a bike that is, after all, meant to be a retro classic.

If you have installed the minis, I would also like to hear 1) how you mounted them, 2) what sort of quality they are up close in real life, and most importantly 3) did they stand the test of time and do they continue to work. Thanks.

 

[zenbike]

Count me in on the same question. I'd like to convert to a 5 3/4" headlight and with that the stock gauges are way too big. These units look good and the price is right.

 

[Craigore]

get the speedo from mikesxs with all the idiot lights in there.

and talk to d9 or make your own bracket.

i have a small headlight

ps my speedo cable is broken

 

[steve betts]

get the speedo from mikesxs with all the idiot lights in there.

and talk to d9 or make your own bracket.

i have a small headlight

ps my speedo cable is broken

Thanks, Craigore. Finally, a mini speedo sighting. A few questions: first, does that speedo plug and play with a stock mechanical Bonne speedo cable? And then do you simply splice in the idiot light connections? Also, why no tach? Do you happen to know how easy (or complicated) it is to hook up a tach to these bikes?

I think I will contact D9 and get a tidy mounting bracket...

 

[Craigore]

My tach is mounted to my forks. It's a 48mm tach. I'm having more of these brackets made up.

The speedo works fine but I did have to splice into the wiring.

 

[beemerrich]

I'll try this post here, since nobody on the Twins Tech seems to have done this, maybe one of you cafe guys have...?

My "non-reply" to your twin tech talk thread is post #4:

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-tec...cycle-mini-speedos-and-tachs.html#post2385442


Since you're a glutton for punishment in your quest to add the cheap taiwanese gauges to your ride, here's D9's vendor page on newbonneville riders forum....there's tons of pics there showing all sorts of mounting options:

http://www.newbonnevilleriders.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=21

Regards,

--Rich

 

[zenbike]

I asked D9 about fabricating a lay-flat bracket to use with a 5 3/4" headlight and got an unbelievably detailed summary about using small gauges to compliment the smaller light. Now I'm definitely leaning in this direction. I'm going to copy it here as it answers most of your questions, just not the durability. Lots of links and pictures. If money was no object I'd go with the Motogadget gauge. The 2 1/2" gauges with integrated warning lights look great on our bikes, much more complementary size for the slimmed down look.

---from D9---

IMO... if you're going with a 5 3/4" headlamp, the stock instruments are too big... in any configuration.
That said, have built brackets for dual stock instruments with small LED's in place of the
standard warning lamps, which does make for a somewhat lower-profile setup...
http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/...llery I/?action=view&current=CJ12thruxLED.jpg
... but viewing the bike as a whole, in any view but the rider looking down, with a 5 3/4" headlamp, the stock instruments due to their vertical
bulk are going to visually over-power the downsized headlamp and probably look somewhat out of balance... willing
to build it though if that's what you want.

Have you considered a single standard 2.5" mini-speedo setup instead of using the the stock speedo?

http://newbonnevilleriders.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39035&postcount=3
http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/...allery I/?action=view&current=Blacknight3.jpg
http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/... Gallery I/?action=view&current=d9_mini04.jpg
http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/...llery I/?action=view&current=DavidC_rider.jpg
Bracket kit designed to fit with most riser-fixed handlebars - stock, M, mini-M, Ace/Clubman, etc.
Not designed for use with clip-ons, additional modifications required. Can also build a similar
configuration for a 1 7/8" speedo, although LED warning lamps would need to be built in to the bracket or
you could install them in the top of the headlamp, unlike the 2.5" mini speedos that have the warning lamps
built into the face of the instrument.

In the US, most owners converting to mini speedo use the #03-0748 from MikesXS or
the 15-0032B from Dime City Cycles.
http://www.mikesxs.net/products-46.html#products
http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vinta...ack-face-led-speedo-speedometer-15-0032b.html

Mini speedo Information post with links to instrument vendors and wiring diagrams
http://www.newbonnevilleriders.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3572
converting to mini speedo requires wire splicing & soldering.

Another even smaller, lower profile (and substantially higher quality) option that would look great with
a 5 3/4" headlamp would be a Motoscope Tiny -
check out the three "Martin T" pics - bracket can be built angled or flat.
Kit includes bracket, machined cup, gaskets, mounting hardware.
http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/z276/D9davidnyne/Owners Gallery I/?action=view&current=MTO_1.jpg
Wire splicing and soldering required as well as conversion to magnetic speed sensor (available from Motogadge/Spiegler).
http://www.spieglerusa.com/gauges-instruments/motogadget/series-tiny.html
http://motogadget.com/zubehorartikel/sensoren.html
Push buttons
http://www.spieglerusa.com/gauges-instruments/motogadget/instrument-accessories.html
http://motogadget.com/de/zubehorartikel/drucktaster.html
Bracket cost same as mini speedo bracket, speedo not included. Now also offer a substantially
smaller, super low-profile push-through bracket design for the Tiny... no pics yet but soon.
Alternatively, Motogadget also offers their own cups, brackets and mountings - the tiny is small enough
to mount inside a stock headlamp, not sure if it'd fit into a 5 3/4" but maybe.

 

[Calliway]

You can only use the speedo. the tack is cable driven on the guages and not on our bikes. I have them on my Honda CB350 and they work nice. I have the white face guages with the idiot lights in the speedo.

 

[steve betts]

You can only use the speedo. the tack is cable driven on the guages and not on our bikes. I have them on my Honda CB350 and they work nice. I have the white face guages with the idiot lights in the speedo.

Disappointed about that. Have my heart set on knowing my engine speed next season. Enough already with listening to the revs.

So you mean to say there's no way that you're aware of to make mini speedo and tach combo (similar to DCC or other vendors... dodgy "Taiwanese" variety of dubious quality as Rich indicated...) work on our bikes?

I'm not even sure what I'll wind up doing and a lot will depend on how generous Intact Insurance decides to be with me.

Thanks for the links.

 

[Calliway]

The speedo will work as long as you get the right ratio drive for Triumphs but on our Triumphs you can't hook up a cable driven tach to a tach that picks up its signal electronically. There isn't a tach drive on our engines.

I am going to correct myself DCC has an electonice speedo http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vinta...hrome-electronic-tach-tachometer-49-3374.html

 

[matress]

Has anyone tried using these gauges on the EFI Thruxtons, Bonnevilles, Scramblers, etc? From what I understand, they need one of the stock gauges in place for the bike to run.

 

[Calliway]

Speedo's wont work on an efi bike. Your speedo is part of the CANBus system.