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I suffered a terrible loss last weekend when my beloved Blue Crown conure (parrot) died unexpectedly. Both myself and my other conure have been taking it hard. And the house just seems much too quiet now. Usually the birds and I talked to each other all day. So I've been debating whether or not I should adopt another parrot. My other bird may or may not like this idea. Yes, she misses her friend but they were together a long time, and she may not want a new friend. That is hard to say. I tried asking her, but of course she may not have understood me, or known how to answer me.

I did put an ad up on craigslist saying I may want to adopt an older parrot of similar size as I already have a very nice cage and playpen and other accessories. So far I've been offered 2 different Amazon parrots, both 12 years old.

Ok, I have the ability to work with an Amazon, who can be moody, stubborn and sometimes just plain difficult. They are also great talkers and quite clownish, which offsets the moods in my book. The problem is they live longer than pretty much any other kind of parrot. I have heard of some living past 80 and I believe there is one documented case of 119 years old!! 50-60 is more common, but still, it's a long time. In other words, I would expect the bird to outlive me. I do not have children and may not have anyone in my life then who would take the bird.

What would you do? Yes, undoubtedly, I would enjoy the bird very much, but worry what would happen to it after I'm gone. They are not a bird just anyone can handle either. They do have the intelligence of a 3-5 year old human child and the ability to identify colors, shapes, etc. So, it's not a hamster or even a dog. It's more like a child with feathers but one who will always be 3-5 years old and need a caretaker.

Sadly one of these birds is looking for a new home because her elderly owner is going into assisted living. Yes, it kind of makes me angry that someone would get such a long lived pet when she knows she's too old to have one. But, at age 43, so am I! The other was rescued from an abusive situation.
 

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Roxy, I am so saddened by your loss. You put so much of yourself into your posts that I know without a doubt you are a loving person and that you take the greatest care with your lucky furry and feathered friends. My heart aches for you and your other bird who misses her friend.

I understand your dilemma. You can't just throw any ole bird in there and expect your girl to be happy. And you don't want to leave them to just anyone should you pass first.

I googled "amazon parrot rescue" and found a few sites that might help. I didn't take the time to read them but I am hopeful that you can find the right one for your family, and a place for them to go should they outlive you.

My own experience has taught me that given time, cats and dogs grow more affectionate toward each other despite their first rebellions. I think they're even better at it than people!

Again, I'm sorry for your loss.

Another idea I just had that might help you is to go through photos of your lost friend and make a little book for him/her and definitely have a ritual of some sort to honor the relationship you had, the life and love of the bird, and you could even post a few pics here for us! :)
 

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I have been owned by several dogs over my lifetime.

I knew when they adopted me that I would outlast them but... they loved me and treated me well and in return I loved them back as best you can.

As they grew older and were less able to take care of me I adjusted and still valued them for the times we shared and the care they still had for me.

I knew they would die eventually and each time was a huge wrench but my life was always richer for having been owned by them.

Being an orphan was hard but seldom lasted long, I found that a new dog somehow would always come along, feel sorry for me and adopt me and whilst at the start it felt a little wrong and dishonourable to my previous owner, they too wiggled their way into my heart in a new way.

I would say, (as a pet), that if you treat us well... just go for it. From my perspective, when you live for up to 80 years it would mean no dog would ever be able to adopt me until I was in my 70's if they had to outlast me. :(
 

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Well, I do worry about possibly bringing home a disease. But, that can even happen when acquiring a baby bird from a reputable breeder. It's definitely best not to let a new bird close to your other bird(s) within the first 30 days. Even better to keep them in 2 separate rooms at first, although that's hard because birds want to be with you all the time.

Yes, it's likely at first my other bird will react badly. She did when my other bird first came here and they were both babies then. She cussed at the new bird for a couple of days. And when my sister's bird was here she would cuss at that one as well at first. And that one cussed back so it was always an interesting first night of the weekends he came to visit while she was out of town. One of those nights, I had a new bf here for dinner. He just stood there and asked, "Are those birds saying what I think they're saying?" and I had to admit, yes, they were.

I'm more concerned about the lifespan though. I am very good at working with problematic animals of various species. You need to expect a certain amount of behavior problems with a rescue bird. That may be why it's looking for a new home to begin with, and they do grieve the loss of their owners, for up to a year. So it could even be a year before the bird fully accepts me as it's human flock member.

Let's also remember I have pancreatitis. There's a good chance I won't live a normal lifespan myself. I have told myself not to get any new animals because it would be in their best interest that I outlive them. But, I was expecting my other bird to be around for another 10 years, although neither of her parents lived long either, and she was the last baby they ever had. She may have had a genetic issue I wasn't aware of.

I know at some point I will need another companion for my younger horse. When it comes to that time, I'm hoping I can find a horse of similar age to the other, or a goat could work, too. Due to the economy there are a ton of horses looking for new homes right now.

I guess after some more time thinking about it, I'm kind of leaning away from bringing home either of these Amazons due to their very long lifespan. They do both need homes though.
 

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The thing is, who else is likely to do it that will outlive them? Not many, if any at all. All you can do is try to offer a loving home, however temporary, and hope that someone takes on the task afterwards, if it comes to that. We can't second guess life, we can only live it.

I'd say give it a try with the proviso that you can return it/them if your parrot really doesn't get on with them.

Just had my old granny cat Muffin put to sleep today. You're not alone in your grief :(
 

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Sadly one of these birds is looking for a new home because her elderly owner is going into assisted living. Yes, it kind of makes me angry that someone would get such a long lived pet when she knows she's too old to have one. But, at age 43, so am I! The other was rescued from an abusive situation.
Too bad that we don't live a bit closer than we do as I have what might be a great bird for you to adopt. He's a lilac crowned Amazon.


We are in that unfortunate category of having pets who are sure to outlive us as we also have an African grey and a Moluccan cockatoo.
When we got these pets, the rational was "Surely our adult kids would want them when we kick off."
I don't fault the bird purchasers as much as those who continue to breed and sell these fine creatures. Who could resist getting such a loving and adorable pet.
 

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I too have had a wrestle with myself when it comes to having pets in the house. having survived a heart attack and having dogs all my adult life. I wonder if it's fair to my furry buddies if I kick the bucket before they do, but dogs are a big part of my life and I can't feature me not having at least one. They are great companions and I have rescued one from the pound who tested positive for heartworm. It took her a flat two months before she warmed up a bit and a full six months before she became a happy, though expensive as hell, dog.

My uncle and his wife (who passed away a couples of months ago) bought a puppy less than a year ago. I'm sure that dog keeps good company for my uncle and even if he passes away soon that dog has done it's job. I'm sure she will be adopted by his kids if not me.

If you think you bird needs a companion get one, a rescue would be nice since you know they need someone to step up.
 

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Sorry for your loss Roxy. You might think about just putting any decision on hold for a while. Let things percolate a little while. No need to rush.
 

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I'm sorry to hear you're going through the same thing I am now, Spit. I've cried so much that I have a sinus infection again and I couldn't even see for 2 days to ride or drive.

And yes, even though I want to outlive my animals so I don't have to worry about them, I also can't see myself being animaless since they are my companions. People do need companions and a purpose. Taking care of something gives you a purpose.

I asked a friend whose wife has something like 20 parrots, may of them rescue, for an opinion. Even though he isn't that much into the birds, he said I should get one. I sent him photos of them and he said they look lost. And it's true, they do. And one is in a pathetically awful tiny cage, like for budgies (parakeets). Amazons are pretty meaty birds and need a much larger cage than that, which I have.

Wabill, I do hope your children will take your birds. All I have is a niece, but she's 5. I'm quite sure if I asked her she would say, yes, I'll take your birdie without having any understanding of what that entails, lol!

I do have a difficult collection of animals, all of whom would be hard to rehome. But, that's part of the reason I have them is because I can deal with "character", lol!
 

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My goodness, some idiot just flagged my ad and they removed it. What is wrong with people? I can't imagine how it could have seemed like a scam or have been offensive in any way. All it did was say I was looking to adopt a bird and why. I went on to explain the sizes and types of birds that would best fit into my household, that I was looking for an older bird so I could provide it a forever home, etc.

That makes me really mad. I want to help an animal that would be hard to place otherwise and my ad gets taken down!
 

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Maybe you could re-post the ad or contact a moderator of whatever forum and ask why it was removed.

I applaud your efforts!
 
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Just my two bits Roxy. Like Sparky says, re-post, find a new clearing house, get it done.
I thought a lot about your concern that the birds would out live you. Well, many, many people have pets that need a new home when the owner dies, put in a home or other reasons. There are always some one or some place that will take that animal and it will probably bring love and companianship to yet another sole. Do what you need and take an animal some one else can't care for if you want.
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I will try to put the ad back up. I went back and read the agreement terms for placing it but it didn't sound like it met any of the criteria for flagging and removal. It certainly didn't contain porn or racist/sexist, etc type comments!

Well, one of the Amazon's humans has not emailed me back so I'm not sure what is going on with that one. That's the one whose owner is in assisted living. I will probably go see the other Amazon this evening. His owner is very definitely pushing to get him out of the house. She keeps writing to say once he gets used to you, he'll be nice to you! Well, it doesn't really work that way with birds. They make a snap judgement on whether or not they like you. Either they do, or they don't, and if they don't, you will never really win them over. They may tolerate you because they have no choice, but they would always rather be with someone they love or find attractive. Most birds do like me, but I have met some who don't.

The good thing about Amazons is that if they want to chomp on your face, they let you know! They fan out their tails and start pinpointing their eyes. I once had one showing that display to me, but at the same time was saying, "Oh, come here! I won't bite you!" Of course I knew it would, the little liar!

So I will go see him and see if he would like to get to know me.
 

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Get a new old bird and put them (with detailed instructions) in your will. They may need rescuing as as you do, even if only temporarily.

Jonkster, I'm going to cut n paste your comment to my mom who just lost her dog.
 

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Get a talking pig! Awsome!
 

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I'm so sorry Roxy and Split. It hurts so much to lose our dear friends. We lost two dragons last month, my heart is still broken. But we have already adopted another one (for a total of 5). We get so much love and entertainment from them. Norbert should have lived another 5 years.

 

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I'm very sorry to hear you lost more Dragons, Diablo.

You just never know with pets, like people. I've had many that lived quite a bit longer than they were supposed to, and some that have passed prematurely. I am expecting my old horse to go sometime soon just because of his age, but I wasn't expecting to lose my bird.

I just called my parents for their anniversary and the first thing my dad said was, "Is that 90 year old horse still alive?" I said yes, he seems to be doing just fine.
 
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