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At 2:08, your buddy almost met that car. The car moved over to the outside of his lane, and your buddy had to take evasive maneuvers to get his head back in his lane. It's not just your tires that need to stay in your lane; it's everything between your helmet and tires. Gotta be careful on the roads!

You guys are doing a far better job of actually staying in your lane than most ride videos like that. Most people post a video like that touting how great they are, but they are terrible riders. Just try to be a little farther from traffic please. I would hate to hear about a wreck.

Also, where is that? It's a beautiful road. The road itself seems like it's in good condition. The view is fantastic...
 

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My friends daughter was in that car with her two young chilldren. She was going to visit her terminally ill mother in hospital.
 

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At 2:08, your buddy almost met that car. The car moved over to the outside of his lane, and your buddy had to take evasive maneuvers to get his head back in his lane. It's not just your tires that need to stay in your lane; it's everything between your helmet and tires. Gotta be careful on the roads!

You guys are doing a far better job of actually staying in your lane than most ride videos like that. Most people post a video like that touting how great they are, but they are terrible riders. Just try to be a little farther from traffic please. I would hate to hear about a wreck.

Also, where is that? It's a beautiful road. The road itself seems like it's in good condition. The view is fantastic...
Agreed the rider in front was far too close to the line, can see he cuts another line at 02:30.

This road is in Cape Town, South Africa :)
 

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Good stuff, it reminds me of the good ol days of playing follow the leader doing some high speed jamming with some biker bros riding Hwy 1 on the Cali west coast along the ocean….. FTG
 

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At 2:08, your buddy almost met that car.
I think perception in the video is distorted, or your concept of close is very different from mine.
It certainly does not look close if you take a snapshot at 2:08, well to me it doesn’t.

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Awesome. Pristine video quality! very 'spirited' Kph.
 
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Beautiful road and scenery. It's just like we have here in North Yorkshire....except we usually have no sunshine and you don't have to dodge the sheep and potholes in Cape Town
 

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I think perception in the video is distorted, or your concept of close is very different from mine.
It certainly does not look close if you take a snapshot at 2:08, well to me it doesn’t.

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That's a good snapshot of his location when passing the car, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Look at him. His knee and shoulder is right above the white dividing line. The car is moved over hugging the brick wall on the inside of its lane. He isn't about to hit the car at that point in time, but look closely at where his tire is in relation to the white center line. About 1/3 of a second before (20 frames at 60 fps), he is here, hugging the inside of the turn:

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He is leaning to the right in a right turn, but his tires are right beside the center lane dividing line. That puts his head and shoulder and knee over the line in the other lane. He is too close at that point. It's his "Ut oh!" moment. He notices the car and performs his evasive maneuvers to get back over to where he should have been the whole time, then has to lean much harder into that turn to complete it. If you watch the video, you can clearly see him wiggle to avoid the car. You don't take evasive actions if you aren't in danger of possible contact with the car.

Here is a picture of him coming out of that turn with the car even with Dark Rider.

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Look at his lean angle and lane positioning. He goes into the turn shallow and close to the center line, then has to move closer to the outside and lean more to get back on track, then is leaning the most and is the farthest from the center lane divider as he exits the turn. He had to lean more and more as the turn progressed, but he got closer and closer to the outside of the turn. That's not what you want. He had to do that to avoid the traffic. Watch the video from 2:05 to 2:10 and you can clearly see him taking evasive maneuvers to avoid the car. He took that action because he knew he was too close. He performed his evasion incredibly well and didn't get in any trouble. I'll definitely give him that credit. It's just the fact that he had to perform the evasion that is the issue I brought up. That's how accidents happen. They all start with something small.

Dark Rider, on the other hand does just fine in that same turn. He doesn't have to wiggle around the car and takes a nice smooth line through the turn. He actually does pretty well through the whole video. A bit "spirited" maybe, but I'm just as guilty of that as anybody else so I can't honestly complain about that.

I'm all for a nice spirited ride, but I'm also big on safety. Gotta be safe out there.
 
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He flinched, he should have held his line as the bend opened out and just headed for the next apex, like the guy in front of him. He would not have been close to the car.

A great video of a ride at fun but safe speeds.

What a great road, fantastic views, smooth bends, great road surface, very few side turnings and sunshine.
Iv’e just commuted to work in light freezing cold drizzle, fighting the city traffic-nothing to get all green eyed about, honestly🥶

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There’s no guarantees in street racing, if u are a squid or fng road riding skills are easy to critique…lol but if u are a seasoned rider with skills then as far as road racing or street racing or canyon racing there really is no guidelines that’s why it’s illegal, it’s not the track u do whatever it takes with all your knowledge and experience and riding skills if u are going to have a jam session to get from point A to point B Without getting killed. If it means crossing lines or using the whole road that’s what I will do if the line I need dictates that. I am always focused on what could b coming around the next corner. U can stay in your lane not cross lines it really does matter u always have to expect and anticipate there’s always someone coming around the blind corners your way, riders and other vehicles coming from the opposite direction will cross over or drift into the opposite lanes too and if it’s a blind corner u will taken out even if your in your lane, it’s a two way street. That’s why road racing is dangerous, but for me its always been exciting i was raised a street racer laying it on the line, that’s what I lived for knowing that’s what I could die from too. A true passion and addiction! I know it’s not politically correct but I have always preferred the streets more the the track. If I am having a jam session with other riders I want to beat them with skills not stupidity and jeopardize causing a wreck. When I am balls out by myself canyon carving every move decision is critical there’s no second chances and do overs if u make mistake, the mission is to make it back home to my loved ones in one piece and to avoid them getting the dreaded call.
i know it doesn’t sound like it but do take street road racing very serious, i did it for over 25 years on Hwy 9 with mostly 1100 & 750 Gixxers and a handful of 600cc for the ultimate balls out canyon carving. every time I suited up to hit Hwy 9 it was always a 100% chance that u could wreck or loose your life so your level of riding experience is the only thing that could lower the percentage. Everyone who gets a bike or has a bike in the area wants to badly experience 9 it’s a bucket list for most especially if u want to road race or do some canyon carving it’s canyon carving heaven! but listen up, if u have no skills at all on a bike and think u can go up there and shred u are totally making a big mistake, years ago the average of 4 motorcycles a weekend would go down on 9. Can’t imagine what it is now. after years of it getting crowed and out of control on the weekends I started doing my road racing and canyon carving only on early morning week days and maybe a afternoon ride once in awhile on Hwy 9 And stayed away from it on the weekends after that, way less cops too and u can flow more freely without the traffic slowing the pace… before I would do a Hwy 9 ride I would always spend a few minutes with my wife telling her how much I love her give her some serious kisses, she and I well know the risk of 9. and she understands my motobike dna and passion and totally supports me knowing my riding skills. But there’s no guarantees I will make it back home And she knew that too. I tell her my Hwy 9 route and if she doesn’t hear from me by a certain time then to call out the search party. no matter your skill level when u are on 9 it’s the skills of the other drivers that can make a big difference in creating or avoiding collisions or just loosing it because they couldn’t hang.
On another note when u are doing triple digits on the street the slightest move can B major and to clip a line is going to b like a blink of a eye, u are always not going to b able to hold the same line as the rider in front of u and u have to adjust your own lines Depending on your ryding style, it won’t always b the same as the rider in front of u or behind you unless u have been riding for many years together Playing follow the leader or being the leader Like I did.
I have no criticism of the video at all except I wish I was jamming with them along that coast letting it rip, thnx for sharing! its easy to b a back seat quarterback on the couch then to b a real quarterback in action on the field executing the plays in real time, if u get my drift…lol…FTG
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A beautiful ride on a beautiful road. Had a slightly different ride on a similar road in Northern Ireland a while back. We were returning from the North West 200 road races. Two big differences one was the fact that rain was PERSISTING down for the whole two hours (I have never been so cold), the other difference was the police escort even though we were not going fast. He would not let anybody pass, probably he was scared one of us would slide off and could get run over by passing vehicles that did not see us. Ah the joys of motorcycling
 
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