[simonsez]

This has been on my mind...and when the new 07's become in stock I'll be at the dealer door counting nickels if I have to.

But my real question is this, how many of you practice the Slow break in for a bike, and those that practice the "hard" break in - and whats your impression of these two methods on a triple?

If you don't know what I'm talking about - here's a link to the "hard break in" vs. the manufacturer suggested way.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

just wondering if the possible troubles with some bikes (the 955 in particular and perhaps the 1050 as well) are attributed to an incorrect break in practice? I'm interested in your thoughts everyone. Thanks!

 

[OKCTriple]

IMHO Motoman has developed his method and has gained his experience with race motors and not OEM long term daily ridden motorcycles. There is a reason that (ALL) of the manufactures have a slow break in period. I agree that the machining process of parts have come a long way, but it is because of this that the tolerances they are able to maintain are so much tighter. And because of tighter tolerances they are able to squeeze out the performance from motors today. It is because of the tight tolerances that they require the a slow and methodical break in. It makes no sense that the manufactures would suggest a particular break-in procedure that would decrease or lessen the life of the motor.
Do you really think the manufactures want a reputation for their motors to start consuming oil and wearing out with no more than a certain amount of miles on them?
Most people do not hang on to their bikes for long or even put that many miles on them. Most people end up trading in or getting rid of a bike because they want the latest and greatest or just do not ride as much. So, why not follow the manufactures break-in procedures, that way if you end up keeping the bike for many years and end up putting on thousands of miles you will know for sure if by following the procedure outlined by the manufacture whether or not it is the proper one or not.
Myself I have followed threads such as this for years and the few people that truly rode the dickens out of their bikes, the majority of them, broke-in the engine as prescribed and had no problems what so ever.
You can bet I will break-in my '07 Tiger per Triumphs recommendations. :wink:

 

[tman11535]

what's it gonna hurt to break in like triumph says. Its like sex on your wedding night you have to be gentle until she really starts to loosen up. :-D

 

[blacktiger]

The difference between the two methods are :-
a) fast & hard makes a motor that goes like stink but will wear out quick.
b) slow & methodical makes a motor that will last forever.

I used "b" and the motor's as quick as I can use and has used no oil between services and has 40K on the clock with no sign of a problem.
It's your choice. Do want to keep the bike or thrash it and sell quick?

 

[stanegoli]

I followed Triumph's recomendations on running in when I bough bike new (which I guess is the "slow" method).

Have now reached 14,000 miles and the bike is performing wonderfully. Feeling better than ever, especially after the 12,000 mile service.

So I would say Triumph know what they are talking about....
:razz:

 

[Bushwhacker]

I would do and have done a combination leaning toward the Triumph method.

While I do not use the "hard" method I will rev the engine up to around 5-6000 rpms after the first hundred miles for short bursts.

I did this with my 05 and the bike ran great, got great gas mileage, never used oil and the only problem I ever had with it was the gas guage sending unit and I really do not think over revving caused this.

-

 

[playinthestreet]

It really boils down to common sense. The service mgr where I've bought several Triumphs emphasizes that you need to vary the rpms as opposed to droning on the slab for a few hours at a fixed rpm to get those miles on. It won't hurt it to spool it up once in a while, but wouldn't be banging it off the rev limiter regularly either.

 

[twinrider]

I did mine per Triumph, in fact when I have a new bike I usually try and go with manufacturers recommendation, pretty much.
I will also say though, that I have a suspicion that recommendations are based partly on the bikes mechanical needs but also partly based on fear of liability.
Example, a manufacturer has no idea what level of riding experience a purchaser has. He may well be a new rider. In any case they are taking delivery of a machine that is new to them, with new, unbroken in brakes, new,slippery tires and at least somewhat unfamiliar nuances that all bikes have. Now Triumph tells you to go out and redline the bike say half a dozen times, you crash the bike and during the lawsuit it comes out they told the new purchaser to run it for all its worth. It looks reckless and is a liability for the manufacturer. If they tell you to take it easy, keep speed down and so on, there is less chance of crashing the new bike, they look responsible and liability is reduced somewhat.

 

[Tigerbob]

When was the last time you saw a car with a sticker in the back window saying "RUNNING PLEASE PASS" 30 years?

What does running in mean in todays modern manufacturing methods?

Modern engines are not made up of the conglomeration of badly machined parts oy yesterday (Aluminium pistons in cast iron barrels is an example of two metals that expand and contract at different rates)

Vehicles including bikes are manufactured so much better these days that Running In is really not required.

Do what the manufacturer says in the handbook.

I do the following whenever I have a new bike or car:

1. Drive it normally. (No wheelies, Stoppies, Redlining)
2. Don't labour the engine.
3. Don't over rev the engine.
4. Check oil and water weekly.

I think you will find that if the above is followed until the manufacturer advises you to open it up you will be O.K

It really is amazing how the modern vehicle is manufactured and the quality of the end product.
In the sixties I bought a new Escort, I had to take it back after 500 miles to have the oil changed and the head pulled down. Don't go over 50 mph I was told.

2 years ago I purchased a new Renault Clio for my wife. I enquired when the first service was due and was told "When you bring it in for M.O.T" my wife only does 6000 miles per year.

Happy Days.

:razz: :wink: :hammer:

 

[simonsez]

thank you for your inquiries. I was just wondering if anyone had done the previous attempt. In gathering, it leads me to believe that either it's still controversial, or b, it doesn't apply to modern technology.

i thought the same, and I will take some pointers from that article. mostly, changing my oil within 50 files and varying RPM, i think thats solid advice for a break in. thanks guys and gals

 

[pbrokaw]

As a owner of a new 2006 Tiger with about 246 miles on it as we speak. I have been keeping it below 5 grand until the mileage restriction sticker on the gas tank is satisfied.The first 100 miles they want you to keep it below 3000,which is very difficult on a new bike with a triple!!!

Perry

 

[cbxtc6]

Hey Perry!
Where'd you buy your Tiger? I was up at Team Triumph on the 16th of Dec. on my new '06. I live about an hour South of you. drop me an e-mail cbxtc6 at yahoo.com
I have a GTS too!!
Weird.

Anyway, anyone else having a hard time fiding Neutral at a stop? I am. 600 miles as of yesterday. I'm hoping it goes away as the tranny wears in?

Mike

 

[TriDucBMWnut]

On 2007-01-02 13:08, cbxtc6 wrote:

Anyway, anyone else having a hard time finding Neutral at a stop? I am. 600 miles as of yesterday. I'm hoping it goes away as the tranny wears in?

Mike

Hey Mike. I rode a Tiger for the first time today. Test drive. I thought it was me.... losing my mind. I couldn't find N to save my life. Maybe fifteen minutes into the test drive, I finally found it (indicator light on). I was beginning to think that the light was out. But, after that first "find" it seemed to get easier with every stop..... weird! :???:

 

[RGCH]

For those of you that have not read the Autumn issue of Torque the following is an extract from an article written by the Triumph rolling road specialist who shares responsibility for riding EVERY bike built.
The bikes are collected at the end of the line and have fuel added. Battery and engine diagnostic tool connected and bike is fired up and all electronics and lighting checked. voltmeter also checks battery is correctly charging. Temporary seat fitted and bike ridden into rolling road where front and rear brakes are checked at 30 MPH. The transmission of the bike powers the rolling road. Finally we do a power testwhere we take the bike through the gears up to 70mph. The bike is run for a short period at that speed before we return through the gears to 0., checking gears are engaging and the gear lever is returning. We then ride the bike out, remove the tempporary seat and collect the next bike. in all we ride each bike for abouthalf a mile.

I am no expert and IMHO I assume that the fuel and oil are now removed and the bike shipped dry. Any initial swarf would then be drained. The dealer then will fit oil and filter in his PDI. If this is the case there would appear to be no need to change oil within 100 miles or so as some people suggest and the first service as recommended by Triumph would be the right time to change for the first time. I may of course be completely wrong. However when buying a new Triumph dont expect it to have never been fired up or ridden previously.

 

[OKCTriple]

I concur, my salesmen told m fresh out of the crate the odo read .8 miles on her and during PDI they put another 5.6 miles on it. Their service department when they PDI always ride the bike for a minimum of 5 miles.
Do you think they might be tempted to get on it and see what it will do when ever it is a newly released model? Since my '07 is the first 1050 to go through the service department, it makes me wonder.

 

[Guest]

Do you think they might be tempted to get on it and see what it will do when ever it is a newly released model?Since my '07 is the first 1050 to go through the service department, it makes me wonder.

I had one of the first Honda CBF1000 's when they came into the UK last year. The dealer told me it was the first one they had seen. With the reports coming out that it went like stink (and it does) I too was worried they would trash the life out of it in the first few miles of it's life.

It never used any oil though so I guess i was safe :-D