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I've seen lots of lucky people on the forum showing off their new RS, but curious if anyone has bought the R?

Thoughts? Happy with the decision? Or wish you went for the RS?

I don't plan on ever taking my bike to the track, and looking at the specs, I think the R might be a better option for me for the street...

Thanks for the input!
 

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For what's worth it- I do not own a 765 but if I buy one it will be the R for a number of reasons. Better power delivery for street riding as you mentioned, plus the big thing for me is the seat. Not only I prefer the looks of a bike with a full seat (and find the "looks clean" mindset of single seater crowd slightly amusing) but I highly appreciate the extra space and convenient access to it the full seat provides, given the fact that I cram all sorts of stuff under seat: alarms, PCV, soon will add quickshifter controller, etc.
All stuff that RS comes with that is of interest to me can be added later on; yes you'd probably save some money if you bought it in the RS package but the above advantages are more important to me that the few hundred dollars I'd save.
 

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I doubt there's any noticeable difference in the power delivery, the RS rides better than any new bike I've ever ridden at low speeds/rpms. The RS also comes with a passenger seat too, but if you like cramming stuff under your seat the cover gives you more room underneath.
I've read in reviews that the ride is a little harsh on the RS, well it was when I rolled it out of the dealership it was. Out of the box settings are horrible, and dealers do not set it up, even though you get charged for it. I considered getting the R but you do get a lot for your money on the RS and I imagine resale value will be better too.
 

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I can totally appreciate having more torque available at a lower rpm, but I honestly doubt you'll notice a difference in a torque curve that comes on just 1400 rpm sooner, up so high in the rpm range. We're talking about a torque peak at 9400 instead of 10,800rpm. When I putt around town, I'm shifting at 4,000 - 6,000 rpm and if I'm going all the way up to 9,000 i'm probably going all the way to redline anyway. If saving the extra $1300 or so is worth it go for the R but you can't touch the level of additional equipment on the RS for anywhere near that money after the fact...that's why I decided to go for the RS. There's plenty of adjustability in the suspension to give a slightly smoother ride on the road (I have mine set on the "comfort" settings) in the manual.
 

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What irritates me is that the dealers won't put any R bikes on the road to test as they are told by Triumph to use the RS. I'd like to try before I buy (if I was in a serious position to do so).
 

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I'd go for the R vs the RS - I don't think some of the extras on the RS are must haves for me. A quick shifter is cool, but it would be nice if it was a downshift model also. I need a little more help on the downshifts. For me it would be a toy vs something I'd use a lot and I tend to preload the shifter which sometimes causes issues with quick shifters. Also, I don't think I have the skill to notice the difference between the Ohlins and R suspension. So I'm more of the target market for the R version.
 

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I'd go for the R vs the RS - I don't think some of the extras on the RS are must haves for me. A quick shifter is cool, but it would be nice if it was a downshift model also. I need a little more help on the downshifts. For me it would be a toy vs something I'd use a lot and I tend to preload the shifter which sometimes causes issues with quick shifters. Also, I don't think I have the skill to notice the difference between the Ohlins and R suspension. So I'm more of the target market for the R version.
I thought the quickshifter needed a down option too, before I rode one. Good news with that, won't really be an issue on either bike. It's almost impossible to make a bad downshift due to the slipper clutch, they make you look like a pro every time. :grin2:
 

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I thought the quickshifter needed a down option too, before I rode one. Good news with that, won't really be an issue on either bike. It's almost impossible to make a bad downshift due to the slipper clutch, they make you look like a pro every time. :grin2:
Agreed - the slipper/assist clutch is buttery.
 

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For me, it would all be about OTD price. If the RS demands a significant premium, then I'd be okay for the "R" even for track days, especially if my Penske shock fits the 765. Besides, the Ohlins isn't one of their twin tube designs (TTX). For $1300, the RS is good bang-for-the-buck, but it wouldn't surprise me if it costs a lot more than that OTD.

Other thoughts:
- Quickshifter is nice, but I like GP shift anyway and would consider replacing it with one with an autoblipper (always wanted to have one).
- Supercorsa is a great tire, but the PRC is better for most riders. Certainly better for intermediate pace, as it warms up more quickly and provides better traction at cooler temps. Less likely too cold tear and wears much better. That's my experience anyway.
- I would bet good money that the difference in power deliver is noticeable. I'm not saying it would be huge, but it's not nothing.
- What I would want most from the RS is the M50 calipers and upgraded master cylinder, but the "R" brakes are still pretty good.

Just my 2 cents. I'd be pretty happy with either.
 

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For me, it would all be about OTD price. If the RS demands a significant premium, then I'd be okay for the "R" even for track days, especially if my Penske shock fits the 765. Besides, the Ohlins isn't one of their twin tube designs (TTX). For $1300, the RS is good bang-for-the-buck, but it wouldn't surprise me if it costs a lot more than that OTD.

Other thoughts:
- Quickshifter is nice, but I like GP shift anyway and would consider replacing it with one with an autoblipper (always wanted to have one).
- Supercorsa is a great tire, but the PRC is better for most riders. Certainly better for intermediate pace, as it warms up more quickly and provides better traction at cooler temps. Less likely too cold tear and wears much better. That's my experience anyway.
- I would bet good money that the difference in power deliver is noticeable. I'm not saying it would be huge, but it's not nothing.
- What I would want most from the RS is the M50 calipers and upgraded master cylinder, but the "R" brakes are still pretty good.

Just my 2 cents. I'd be pretty happy with either.
I agree, I'd be happy with either and they are good value for many different reasons. For me the R strikes the best feature/price balance. Others the RS may have the better balance. If I tracked my bike often and/or was mostly riding from a performance perspective I may fall into the RS category.

I didn't think of the tires but that's another thing I'd put into consideration. Yes, you'll eventually replace them to what you want but I try to commute as much as I can so longevity is a little more of a factor, so I wouldn't be as happy with the Supercorsas. I just slapped Roadsmart IIIs on my 2015 for longevity for commuting and twisty roads are harder to come by in Ohio.

On the torque/power output being more road usable for the R I'd really like to see dyno comparisons to really know. I don't think the R's slightly lower peak is the main factor but if it has more torque/power throughout the earlier part of the rev range (and by how much) that might give more insight. Sad part is I doubt any publication will take the time to dyno a comparison and I haven't seen Triumph do something like that so we may never really know.
 

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I got the R because of the red frame :)
I test rode the RS and the difference in power and delivery is barely noticeable, if at all. The mirrors are way worse on the R though.
 

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$2500? I thought the difference was only $1300 .....
Yes, the MSRP difference is $1300. But if the RS is much more in demand (sounds like it), then I suspect an "R" can be had at a much more discounted price, especially in the spring if there's leftover stock. $2500 was a guess only. Sorry for not clarifying.
 

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The otd on the rs is too high right now. There were 3 2016 tuono rr's new leftovers near me that sold for the price of the 765 rs and if you're shopping for a track bike wouldn't you grab the v4? If there's any rs leftovers that triumph discounts sure but for a street bike the r would be my pick if I was shopping the 800 c.c. market. I can't believe the discounts APE and KTM give on their leftovers, I was offered a new 2016 SDR for $13.250 OTD!! it was orange so I bought the SE for $2500 more instead. sorry boys but I can feel the extra 40 ft/lbs on the street.
 

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The otd on the rs is too high right now. There were 3 2016 tuono rr's new leftovers near me that sold for the price of the 765 rs and if you're shopping for a track bike wouldn't you grab the v4? If there's any rs leftovers that triumph discounts sure but for a street bike the r would be my pick if I was shopping the 800 c.c. market. I can't believe the discounts APE and KTM give on their leftovers, I was offered a new 2016 SDR for $13.250 OTD!! it was orange so I bought the SE for $2500 more instead. sorry boys but I can feel the extra 40 ft/lbs on the street.
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The otd on the rs is too high right now. There were 3 2016 tuono rr's new leftovers near me that sold for the price of the 765 rs and if you're shopping for a track bike wouldn't you grab the v4? If there's any rs leftovers that triumph discounts sure but for a street bike the r would be my pick if I was shopping the 800 c.c. market. I can't believe the discounts APE and KTM give on their leftovers, I was offered a new 2016 SDR for $13.250 OTD!! it was orange so I bought the SE for $2500 more instead. sorry boys but I can feel the extra 40 ft/lbs on the street.
I am shopping for a track bike...something in the 300-400cc range. Preferably an RC390.
 

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not looking for that. The op was talking about the r vs the rs for a street bike and i think the price strategy makes the r a more practical street bike and as sweet as the rs is at that price point there's a lot of bikes that will blow yer hair back on the track. It's part of the process for me to consider value per dollar on expensive purchases and that's why i never buy new but for those that can afford the latest thing and subsequent depreciation when the next best thing comes along.
 
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