anyways to make a long story short, the dealership where I bought the bike aparently wasn't very business savy and shut down. Turns out they were kinda shady. I thought all is well since I have my bike financed through an outside company. I go to renew my registration sticker and it turns out that my VIN # is registered to someone else and my license plate is a different person also. I talk to Polaris-my lean holder- and they say they never received the title. Basically I can't get it registered because I am not the person on file but I still have to pay Polaris each month because they have the bill of sale records but not the title, so I am in a bit of a bind. I don't have the resources to get the title and Polaris is saying they are not resposible. What can I do. I have been thinking of getting a lawyer but I don't have alot of money and wanted some free advice first. Please help anyway possilbe. Thanks
any lawyers out there?
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If the dealer did it to you they most likely did to others. I would consult an attorney now and not waste time asking here. A consultation is usually free or very cheap. If this dealer has done it to others maybe a class action suit against the owner/owners is possible. Either way, go talk to someone who really knows and don't waste time. A lot of times an attorney will work on a percent, based on amount awarded if the case is won or maybe it is just a matter of a few letters written to the right people by the right person and may cost a bit, but worth avoiding a lot of headaches. Again go talk to someone who knows and I hope ut works out for you.
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Rino, Does the annual tag's plate number match the plate's? What VIN is on the Bill of Sale that Polaris has (they should have the blue title!)? Do you have the paperwork from the purchase?
I'd try to find out who is legally linked to what. The group can then get a lawyer to sort things out.
Brad
[ This message was edited by: bradtx on 2006-10-27 19:28 ]
I'd try to find out who is legally linked to what. The group can then get a lawyer to sort things out.
Brad
[ This message was edited by: bradtx on 2006-10-27 19:28 ]
The actual plate matches someone else and the VIN # matches another different person. Polaris has a copy of the bill of sale with the VIN# of my bike on record so that all matches with them. They do not have the original blue title though. I think when the dealership closed shortly after I bought it all the paperwork must have gotten lost. The tax office can't help me as it is registered to someone elses name and if Polaris requests a duplicate title copy it comes in someone elses name and not mine. It really is a big mix up and I can't see any way out of it.
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DUDE, CALL AN ATTORNEY. Your gonna waste days, weeks thinking about it, trying to call people, stressing out, getting pissed, worrying and listening to people that don't know much about what is really going on or what the leagal ramifications are and probably calling an attorney in the end anyway.
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Just call any attorney and tell him or her your situation and if they cannot help you they should tell you and will probably direct you to someone that will be able to help you with your specific type of problem.
Here are a couple of links to start you, attorneys in your area.
http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/firm/Debtor_Creditor/College-Station/Texas
http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/l...M&practice=FL08&city=College+Station&state=TX
I don't know if this is it, but it is a start for you and good luck
Here are a couple of links to start you, attorneys in your area.
http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/firm/Debtor_Creditor/College-Station/Texas
http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/l...M&practice=FL08&city=College+Station&state=TX
I don't know if this is it, but it is a start for you and good luck
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Look on that web site I linked you to and there may be lawyers that are specific to consumer problems, I didn't look. You should be able to figure it out from there.
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> It really is a big mix up and I can't see any way out of it.
It is one grand mix-up, and I feel for you. I'd like very much to ask you some further details, just to satisfy my curiosity, but I don't want you delaying in getting the professional legal help you actually need in this matter.
In the eyes of the state, you are riding a motorcycle that is both titled to and tagged to someone else--and therefore is owned by that other person, not you. This could be <u>very</u> bad news if you're stopped for a traffic infraction, or maybe even just a routine license check if the officer is in a suspicious mood.
Now realistically, the other person isn't likely to press charges since the same thing probably happened to them and they're riding "somebody else's" vehicle too, due to the same mix-up. But you don't want to have to go through all the grief until that fact is established to the law's satisfaction.
If you think you're worried now, imagine sitting in a cell with some bad dude who's looking for a temporary girlfriend until the district attorney gets around to checking out your story. That could get really unnerving. And if the DA is running for re-election and needs an easy grand larceny case to look good in front of the voters of the Lone Star State...
Now, I'm partly joking in the previous paragraph just to lighten the mood; but in all seriousness, it would be a mess no matter how it plays out.
The only even remotely possible simple solution I can see would be if the guy whose name is on the title with your VIN has a bike <u>your</u> name on the title showing his VIN. But still, GET THE LAWYER involved right away, because:
(a) The other guy won't know you from Adam and may be reluctant to talk directly at first;
(b) As incompetent as the dealership was, it may not be as simple as a two-party swap of title and registration; there could be three buyers or more involved;
(c) Since you financed your purchase, and he probably did too, both of your creditors will have to be on the same page with this deal; that is, Polaris might have to agree to cancel the lien on the title showing the other guy's true VIN and his lender will have to do the same before you can sign the titles over to each other and register them in the correct names. In the process, Polaris and the other lender will want to be absolutely sure their names get put on the correct titles, so a lawyer may be someone they would trust to see that it gets done.
This could get trickier than you want to attempt on your own. You can't afford anyone making further slip-ups at this point.
[ This message was edited by: Diego on 2006-10-28 21:26 ]
It is one grand mix-up, and I feel for you. I'd like very much to ask you some further details, just to satisfy my curiosity, but I don't want you delaying in getting the professional legal help you actually need in this matter.
In the eyes of the state, you are riding a motorcycle that is both titled to and tagged to someone else--and therefore is owned by that other person, not you. This could be <u>very</u> bad news if you're stopped for a traffic infraction, or maybe even just a routine license check if the officer is in a suspicious mood.
Now realistically, the other person isn't likely to press charges since the same thing probably happened to them and they're riding "somebody else's" vehicle too, due to the same mix-up. But you don't want to have to go through all the grief until that fact is established to the law's satisfaction.
If you think you're worried now, imagine sitting in a cell with some bad dude who's looking for a temporary girlfriend until the district attorney gets around to checking out your story. That could get really unnerving. And if the DA is running for re-election and needs an easy grand larceny case to look good in front of the voters of the Lone Star State...
Now, I'm partly joking in the previous paragraph just to lighten the mood; but in all seriousness, it would be a mess no matter how it plays out.
The only even remotely possible simple solution I can see would be if the guy whose name is on the title with your VIN has a bike <u>your</u> name on the title showing his VIN. But still, GET THE LAWYER involved right away, because:
(a) The other guy won't know you from Adam and may be reluctant to talk directly at first;
(b) As incompetent as the dealership was, it may not be as simple as a two-party swap of title and registration; there could be three buyers or more involved;
(c) Since you financed your purchase, and he probably did too, both of your creditors will have to be on the same page with this deal; that is, Polaris might have to agree to cancel the lien on the title showing the other guy's true VIN and his lender will have to do the same before you can sign the titles over to each other and register them in the correct names. In the process, Polaris and the other lender will want to be absolutely sure their names get put on the correct titles, so a lawyer may be someone they would trust to see that it gets done.
This could get trickier than you want to attempt on your own. You can't afford anyone making further slip-ups at this point.
[ This message was edited by: Diego on 2006-10-28 21:26 ]
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