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So the local Triumph dealer is willing to be "aggressive" with the pricing on a demo 2010 Thunderbird with 300 miles on it. I've ridden the bike and it's definitely calling my name. But there is no ABS on it... That seems like a feature I would really want, and they are willing to throw in a free quick-release windshield, touring seat, back rest, etc... but that still doesn't give me ABS. Is it worth it to get a discounted 'Bird (and what would a good price be?) or should I wait for the next year's model to come in and pay the premium? I figure this bike will be the bike I ride for a while, and if I'm going to buy a new bike, I'm not going to be wanting to trade up anytime soon to get ABS which will probably be standard on all bikes in the next few years. I know there is no real right answer here, but who else do I turn to with a dilemma like this? Thanks.
 

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Abs is a newish thing on bikes and from what I have heard is good . But if the bike is a bargin with all the extras on I'd go for it . We have been riding bikes for a long time without abs.
 

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The free accessories is a deal from Triumph on leftover 2010 models. I got them when I bought mine in March of this year. My 2010 has ABS. Try calling some different dealers. It might be worth taking a drive elsewhere if you want the free stuff and ABS.
 

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There are still those that argue the merit of ABS, but no one in the industry does - the benefits are well known and documented.

I was in the same boat in 2009. I had the option to purchase a bike in June without ABS or wait until the end of the summer for an ABS version (ABS didn't release until later in 2009). I choose to take the bike without ABS, but given a choice, I'd take the ABS.

I'd call around as Lantesh suggests.
 

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How much riding will you do in the rain, snow, or ice? If not much, get the non-ABS. I'm not sold on ABS for bikes just yet.
 

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So the local Triumph dealer is willing to be "aggressive" with the pricing on a demo 2010 Thunderbird with 300 miles on it. I've ridden the bike and it's definitely calling my name. But there is no ABS on it... That seems like a feature I would really want, and they are willing to throw in a free quick-release windshield, touring seat, back rest, etc... but that still doesn't give me ABS. Is it worth it to get a discounted 'Bird (and what would a good price be?) or should I wait for the next year's model to come in and pay the premium? I figure this bike will be the bike I ride for a while, and if I'm going to buy a new bike, I'm not going to be wanting to trade up anytime soon to get ABS which will probably be standard on all bikes in the next few years. I know there is no real right answer here, but who else do I turn to with a dilemma like this? Thanks.
I am a rookie rider of the cruiser class. My 'Bird weighs more than the last two bikes that I rode put together. After not riding for more than two decades, it's almost like never having ridden at all. I took my bike out to practice a lot for the first month and a half. Emergency stops were practiced mostly at slow speeds (20-30 mph).

When Dufus pulled out in front of me I was doing 50 mph. I hit the rear brake harder than I intended (adrenaline will do that to you). What happened was that I did not high side the bike, I did not end up in the ditch and I did not hit bean brain's crappy Mazda pick-up; I was able to drop from 50 to 10 mph in less than 50 feet.

Thanks to the pulsating rear wheel I maintained complete control of my motorcycle and avoided the overwhelming urge to put some bullets in his butt.

I'll never own another street bike without ABS. Having said that, there are a number of riders out there that have more experience or better luck than I have. They ride without ABS and do fine. It is my fervent hope that the factory will offer ABS as an aftermarket add-on.

In my book it's the best $800 you'll ever spend. But, if the bike has what you want on it at a price you can't pass up and you can't locate a comparable 'Bird with ABS, don't let it keep you from riding a machine that most of us love. I thank my Thunderbird at the end of every ride for taking such good care of me. I hope that you will feel that way too.

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Great advice, y'all. Living in Oregon, I definitely ride in rain if I'm going to ride anytime of the year besides summer. I don't mind the rain actually if I'm in my leathers, but snow and ice... I like the heated seats in the Murano for that :)

I'm gonna go do some more test riding tomorrow and feel it out. See how low he will go on the price. But I'm not in a rush to get a bike, so if I wait for an ABS version, it won't kill me. Seems like giving myself every advantage to not crash a bike or loose control is important. Especially in this day and age of more and more traffic and more people being oblivious and distracted while driving their cars, umm, I mean cages.

Seems like a big jump in theory to go from my Vulcan 500 to a Thunderbird. But riding the Bird felt very natural and I thought it handled better than the America. That's what really sells me on it. And it gets as good mpg as my Vulcan from what I hear. So if I waited a little longer to get the best Bird for my money, that'll get a few more miles under my belt, and will probably make my wife happier. But regardless, to the Triumph dealer tomorrow for some riding and haggling!
 

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When Dufus pulled out in front of me I was doing 50 mph. I hit the rear brake harder than I intended (adrenaline will do that to you). What happened was that I did not high side the bike, I did not end up in the ditch and I did not hit bean brain's crappy Mazda pick-up; I was able to drop from 50 to 10 mph in less than 50 feet.

Thanks to the pulsating rear wheel I maintained complete control of my motorcycle and avoided the overwhelming urge to put some bullets in his butt...
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And that's exactly why ABS on bikes is good. Some people kid themselves into thinking that they can control wheel spin better than ABS. If they want to believe that, fine, but when a car or a deer or a kid or a raccoon, or whatever jumps in front of you, you have milliseconds to hit BOTH brakes as hard as possible without locking up the wheels. Even if you are going to hit the object, you want to scrub as much speed as possible to minimize the force. Most of us mere mortals either don't brake enough or brake too much when facing an imminent collision.
 

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I didn't have the choice when i got mine. But i'm not sure i would have anyways for several reasons including the fact this bike already overwhelms me with maintenance needs and having one more isn't a pleasant thought. Had this bike not exceeded my expectations to the degree it has, i may have already sold it due to that. By the way, i thought ABS was $1300, not $800? Has that changed or was it always 8?
 

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I didn't have the choice when i got mine. But i'm not sure i would have anyways for several reasons including the fact this bike already overwhelms me with maintenance needs and having one more isn't a pleasant thought. Had this bike not exceeded my expectations to the degree it has, i may have already sold it due to that. By the way, i thought ABS was $1300, not $800? Has that changed or was it always 8?
Do you mind elaborating on your statement that you're "overwhelmed with maintenance," please?" I'm just curious as to what I getting myself into by getting T-Bird. Thanks.
 

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Do you mind elaborating on your statement that you're "overwhelmed with maintenance," please?" I'm just curious as to what I getting myself into by getting T-Bird. Thanks.
I now have 21,000 miles on my Tbird and other than an initial coolant leak, all I have done is the scheduled maintenance. This has been a reliable bike and, IMO, easy to maintain.
 

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Well, it just seems like it requires a lot of $ in maintenance, and the fact that theres a lot thats hard to do myself or cannot. Valves for example are adjusted every 12k and the cost varies wildly from dealer to dealer, but it aint cheap. from what i gathered $400 is the low, but i've heard much higher quoted. Did it myself on the speedmaster, no way in he|| would i attempt it on this. Spark plugs were nearly as time consuming and tedious to chane as doing a valve adjustment on my speedmaster ! (ok, slight exaggeration but not too much so) Tires....i have 3k on my current rear and with the 1700 kit it appears it's not going to last the 7k i was getting as a 1600. Looks like 5-6k for this one. And at $200+mounting of $30 (thats if YOU do the removal/reinstall) it gets very expensive. Then there are lots of lots of other things like coolant and brake fluid thats due every 2 years that when included along with oil changes and tires, valves, and a lot of other things i can't recall off the top of my head, it gets real expensive.

But look, any big bike you get is going to be the same. It's the price you pay for more joy. I had a speedmaster and it seemed like i spent less time and $ in maintenance, but it wasn't nearly the bike. If you think you're getting yourself in too deep, then it's not the Tbird you need to forget about, it's any big bike. just tires alone on a big bike can cost more per mile than your car takes for ALL it's maintenance. Thats the case with me and my accord. Seems like i just cooled down after sweating from removing a tire when i gotta do it again. More power/weight=more time and $ in maintenance.
 

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I've never had or rode a bike with ABS. But a few months ago . coming up to the lights in the rain , braked not taticuly hard but the back break locked i let of straight away touched again it locked again , i came to a stop , bike was stood up , but i had gone through the red light and count myself lucky the pother drivers had seen and not came through and cleaned me up . Felt good i managed to keep it upright but said to myself , the next bike i get is gonna have ABS .

With saying that if they were throwing in Screen , Boards, backrest thats a big saving , I could be tempted to say the second next bike will have ABS...ha ha
 
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