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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-03-2018, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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Diagnostic program dealer tool?

Hi all.

Found out about a program called Dealer Tool. Would like to know how reliable it is & if this is the best program to go for?

Seems cheap enough and looks like it can do quite a few things. Check out the link if you don't know about it.

http://dealertoolcouk.ipage.com/default.htm

Let me know what your thoughts are.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-03-2018, 02:10 PM
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I bought it shortly after I bought my bike in 2014. It has served me well and I am glad I bought it.

The only problem I have from time to time is that it cannot connect to the ABS ECU but I am not sure that has anything to do with dealer tool.
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You didn't mention what year your Street Triple is. The older Street Triples can take advantage of Tune ECU and get more than Dealer Tool provides. The 2013 and later Street Triples don't like Tune ECU, but they will work with Tune ECU Lite. There are other apps that will do what Dealer Tool does and they cost less.

With all that, I have Dealer Tool. I have had it for several years. It is user friendly so I use it. With Dealer Tool you can do diagnostics. You can use it -- along with hand tools -- to synchronize your throttle bodies. You can clear your little wrench after service. You can check for/ and clear fault codes. And you can use it to bleed ABS brakes during a brake fluid change. It is useful.

Dealer Tool does not let you into the ECU so you can't calibrate your speedometer, turn off injector cutout, turn off SAI, or change your fuel or ignition maps.

When you buy Dealer Tool, it is set up for one bike, but you can buy pass codes for more motorcycles.
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Hi all.

Found out about a program called Dealer Tool. Would like to know how reliable it is & if this is the best program to go for?

Seems cheap enough and looks like it can do quite a few things. Check out the link if you don't know about it.

http://dealertoolcouk.ipage.com/default.htm

Let me know what your thoughts are.
I've had it ever since I bought my 15 STR3R...have used it for brakes, clear codes, balance throttle bodies, etc without issue...except, and not sure if it's a Windows thing or what...but the USB communication port can get lost from time to time...from updates and what not. Always have to restore it when I do an update. But nothing "deal" breaking though.
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You didn't mention what year your Street Triple is. The older Street Triples can take advantage of Tune ECU and get more than Dealer Tool provides. The 2013 and later Street Triples don't like Tune ECU, but they will work with Tune ECU Lite. There are other apps that will do what Dealer Tool does and they cost less.

With all that, I have Dealer Tool. I have had it for several years. It is user friendly so I use it. With Dealer Tool you can do diagnostics. You can use it -- along with hand tools -- to synchronize your throttle bodies. You can clear your little wrench after service. You can check for/ and clear fault codes. And you can use it to bleed ABS brakes during a brake fluid change. It is useful.

Dealer Tool does not let you into the ECU so you can't calibrate your speedometer, turn off injector cutout, turn off SAI, or change your fuel or ignition maps.

When you buy Dealer Tool, it is set up for one bike, but you can buy pass codes for more motorcycles.
Whoops, I have a 2015 model. Thank for the info. Okay so can Tune ECU Lite do everything Dealer Tool can, like what you mentioned here?:

"Dealer Tool you can do diagnostics. You can use it -- along with hand tools -- to synchronize your throttle bodies. You can clear your little wrench after service. You can check for/ and clear fault codes. And you can use it to bleed ABS brakes during a brake fluid change. It is useful."

Can Tune ECU Lite connect to the ECU?

Oh yes, don't know if this helps but its also an ABS model.
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Dealer Tool allows you to flush the ABS brake manifolds when doing a brake bleed. I don't think the free apps allow that. That is enough to justify the purchase of Dealer Tool.

Dealer Tool is user friendly after setup. When I bought Dealer Tool, the code they sent me didn't work. I emailed and they responded quickly with the proper code. I don't know, but I suspect that they did this on purpose as kind of a double check that I got what I was supposed to and that nobody else got it too.

I bought Dealer Tool for my 2010 Bonneville. After getting Dealer Tool, I downloaded a copy of Tune ECU. I used Tune ECU to calibrate my speedometer and to turn off a function I didn't want. After that, I used Dealer Tool for my maintenance checks because it was easier for me to use. Since the original Tune ECU doesn't work with the newer Street Triples, Dealer Tool seems like the best bet for me. When I bought my Street Triple in early 2015 (a 2013 model from the showroom floor) I ordered another code so that I could use Dealer tool on this bike. I'm happy with it.
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Dealer Tool allows you to flush the ABS brake manifolds when doing a brake bleed. I don't think the free apps allow that. That is enough to justify the purchase of Dealer Tool.

Dealer Tool is user friendly after setup. When I bought Dealer Tool, the code they sent me didn't work. I emailed and they responded quickly with the proper code. I don't know, but I suspect that they did this on purpose as kind of a double check that I got what I was supposed to and that nobody else got it too.

I bought Dealer Tool for my 2010 Bonneville. After getting Dealer Tool, I downloaded a copy of Tune ECU. I used Tune ECU to calibrate my speedometer and to turn off a function I didn't want. After that, I used Dealer Tool for my maintenance checks because it was easier for me to use. Since the original Tune ECU doesn't work with the newer Street Triples, Dealer Tool seems like the best bet for me. When I bought my Street Triple in early 2015 (a 2013 model from the showroom floor) I ordered another code so that I could use Dealer tool on this bike. I'm happy with it.
Hmmm and it will work on the 2015 model? Don't want to bother buying something that's not going to work haha. But Dealer Tool seems legit good the way you speak of it.
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I have just tried to bleed my ABS front brake with dealer tool.
I have good connection via the software and I can hear the ABS opening.
No brake fluid comes out when it is bleeding.
Is this normal?
Should brake fluid come out when the software opens up the ABS?

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I have a Sprint GT and Tuneecu APP on android phone. To bleed brakes you first bleed as normally would if no ABS. Then connect APP to ecu and to Abs module. Then operate the APP to bleed abs. while app is operating you rebleed the brakes, (with brake under pressure as you switch the app you feel the pressure disappear on lever as it operates abs valves) and you let the fluid out of bleed nipple and retighten nipple. 2 or 3 times doing this rattles any air out of abs unit hopefully and then I disconnect app then rebleed the system as in first place. So thats 3 times bleeding at nipple pushing a bit under half a bottle of fluid through. Thats for the front and then go through it all again for the back brake ! I think theres a link on here somewhere to somebody elses procedure. Or look on this link.

https://dealertoolcouk.ipage.com/BrakeBleed.pdf
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-22-2019, 03:15 PM
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Find this on my new to me 2018 Street Triple RS. Is this the Triumph diagnostic connector? Anybody recognize the jumpers?
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