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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-16-2017, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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13+ Street Triple vs Street Triple R/Daytona Front Wheels

I have a 2013 Street Triple (standard, latest gen) and have put 2013 Daytona (standard) forks on.

When tightening the spindle nut, I noticed that it bottomed out fairly far in and there was still about a 1mm gap between the wheel spacer and the fork. After some research, I found that the Daytona and the Street Triple R both have a different internal wheel spacer in the front wheel! I don't know the size, but I'm thinking this must be my problem, so the front wheels between the non-R and the R/Daytona are not compatible. I'm thinking even if I try to swap the internal wheel spacer, the groves for the bearings must be different to accommodate the internal spacer...

Does anyone have any input or recommendations? Could I compensate with slightly larger external wheel spacers (I'm not even sure where to get the ones I'd need)?
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http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61867-0-2.html
http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61021-2-2.html
http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61999-0-2.html
http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61244-1-2.html

Here you can check part numbers for the non-R and R wheels.

There's a different page depending on the VIN, so keep an eye on that as well.

I'm pretty sure the wheel itself will be the same for the non-R, R and Daytona.
I don't think they produced different wheels for the different bikes, would cost too much.

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http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61867-0-2.html
http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61021-2-2.html
http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61999-0-2.html
http://www.triumphestore.com/a/Trium...61244-1-2.html

Here you can check part numbers for the non-R and R wheels.

There's a different page depending on the VIN, so keep an eye on that as well.

I'm pretty sure the wheel itself will be the same for the non-R, R and Daytona.
I don't think they produced different wheels for the different bikes, would cost too much.
That's interesting... I'm not sure where I got off there but for some reason I was sure I read a different part # between the non-R and the R. Thanks for alerting me to this!

It turns out there is just a different part number for the internal spacer with the Daytona models, T2003511 (ST) vs T2003510 (Daytona).

So my fork/wheel spacing issue is either caused by a different triple tree design or this internal wheel spacer. I contacted someone on craigslist to build some custom external spacers that will be a couple mm longer on each end to compensate for the difference.
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A different triple tree design could be the cause for a different size internal spacer.

Just make sure the wheel is centered propperly with the external spacers.
Other option would be to buy the internal spacer for a daytona and you would be good to go if all other parts are identical.

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Don't touch the internal spacer. It is meant for that wheel.
The triple trees are likely a little wider, which would account for the extra space. New external spacers are the way to go. Like DME3 said, make sure the wheel is centered. I would order new external spacers from Triumph. If there is only a spacer on one side, you should compare the axles to make sure they are the same.

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Don't touch the internal spacer. It is meant for that wheel.
The triple trees are likely a little wider, which would account for the extra space. New external spacers are the way to go. Like DME3 said, make sure the wheel is centered. I would order new external spacers from Triumph. If there is only a spacer on one side, you should compare the axles to make sure they are the same.
Yes, I think that the internal spacer is setup to be aligned with the groves for the bearings, so a new spacer wouldn't work (and it's kinda costly to try).

Since I need a longer spacer, I think I'll have them machined from scratch. If I bought new spacers from Triumph that were long enough, I'd probably need to have them machined down anyways (unless someone knows of spacers that are 26-27mm. The wheel should be centered if the spacers are exactly the same length... right? Thanks for the help!
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I want to say that gap is normal. I'm not sure we are talking about the same gap but the fork does not butt up against the wheel after the spindle is tightened. This is to ensure the forks are straight.. so after you tighten the spindle you bounce the fork and then tighten the fork on the spindle.

Do not push the fork snug to close the gap and then tighten... this will cause forks to not be parallel and they won't move smoothly like they should.

My front fork on a stock 2014 triple R has a slight gap.
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I want to say that gap is normal. I'm not sure we are talking about the same gap but the fork does not butt up against the wheel after the spindle is tightened. This is to ensure the forks are straight.. so after you tighten the spindle you bounce the fork and then tighten the fork on the spindle.

Do not push the fork snug to close the gap and then tighten... this will cause forks to not be parallel and they won't move smoothly like they should.

My front fork on a stock 2014 triple R has a slight gap.
Does it look like this on one side of the forks?

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Does it look like this on one side of the forks?

I want to say yes... but I'll check when I get home.
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I want to say yes... but I'll check when I get home.
Definitely check, I don't think that should be there. I just reattached my front wheel to my old forks for making measurements and there was no gap. The spacers should be flush against the fork. If they aren't the wheel won't be centered.
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