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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-06-2008, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
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New U.S. Navy Motor Vehicle (esp. Motorcycle) Safety Policy

Well, the hammer has fallen!



The Chief of Naval Operations has issued Naval Administration Message (NAVADMIN) 310-08. It sets forth new policy on M/V safety and also details new motorcycle-related policy.



The motivation? "IN FY08, 33 SAILORS (and 25 Marines - pr)PERISHED IN MOTORCYCLE INCIDENTS ALONE. THAT IS MORE THAN THE NUMBER OF SAILORS WE LOST IN OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM AND OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM COMBINED THIS YEAR. THIS IS A TRAGEDY FOR OUR SERVICE, CONSTITUTES A SIGNIFICANT IMPEDIMENT TO NAVAL READINESS, AND REQUIRES GREATER VIGILANCE AT EVERY LEVEL OF COMMAND."



I've attached the motorcycle-specific verbiage here. Note: Naval Messages are all uppercase. 'The first khaki' means the first (most junior) Senior Enlisted or Officer in the members' Chain of Command.



4. WITH REGARD TO MOTORCYCLES, TRENDS INDICATE AN INCREASE IN RECKLESSNESS AND NONCOMPLIANCE WITH TRAFFIC LAWS AMONG YOUNGER RIDERS, ESPECIALLY SPORT-BIKE RIDERS. ACCORDINGLY, THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS ARE DIRECTED TO SAFEGUARD MILITARY PERSONNEL AND TO IMPROVE NAVAL READINESS.



A. MOTORCYCLE OWNERSHIP IS A SIGNIFICANT RESPONSIBILITY. PRIOR TO PURCHASING A MOTORCYCLE, ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL WILL CONSULT WITH THE FIRST KHAKI IN THEIR CHAIN OF COMMAND TO BE CERTAIN THEY ARE AWARE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH OWNERSHIP. THESE RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE PROPER LICENSING, INSURANCE, REGISTRATION, TRAINING, AND MANDATORY WEAR OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT (PPE). REF A PERTAINS. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AT

HTTP://WWW.SAFETYCENTER.NAVY.MIL/ASH...CLE/MOTORCYCLE.



B. ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL WHO OWN A MOTORCYCLE, EVEN IF THEY DO NOT INTEND TO RIDE ON BASE, WILL PERSONALLY REPORT MOTORCYCLE OWNERSHIP TO THEIR COMMANDER, COMMANDING OFFICER, OR OFFICER IN CHARGE, VIA THE FIRST KHAKI IN THEIR CHAIN OF COMMAND WITHIN 48 HOURS OF RECEIPT OF THIS MESSAGE. AS THIS IS A GENERAL ORDER, FAILURE TO REPORT OWNERSHIP OF A MOTORCYCLE IS PUNISHABLE UNDER THE UCMJ. COMMANDERS, COMMANDING OFFICERS, AND OFFICERS IN CHARGE ARE TO ENSURE DISTRIBUTION OF THIS NAVADMIN TO ALL HANDS.



C. COMMANDERS, COMMANDING OFFICERS, OFFICERS IN CHARGE, OR THE SENIOR NAVAL MEMBER ASSIGNED TO AGENCIES OR ORGANIZATIONS HEADED BY A CIVILIAN ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN AN ACCURATE LIST OF MILITARY MOTORCYCLE RIDERS IN THEIR COMMAND, UNIT, AGENCY, OR ORGANIZATION. THESE OFFICERS MUST ENSURE THAT ALL RIDERS HAVE A VALID MOTORCYCLE DRIVER'S LICENSE, VEHICLE REGISTRATION FOR STREET MOTORCYCLES, REQUIRED INSURANCE, AND HAVE ATTENDED OR ARE SCHEDULED TO ATTEND THE REQUIRED MOTORCYCLE SAFETY FOUNDATION (MSF) TRAINING COURSES, TO INCLUDE REQUIRED REFRESHER TRAINING AT THE INTERVALS PRESCRIBED IN REF A. MOTORCYCLE TRAINING POCS BY REGION ARE LISTED AT

HTTP://WWW.SAFETYCENTER.NAVY.MIL/ASH...AINING-POC.ASP. ADDITIONALLY, THEY WILL APPOINT A COMMAND MOTORCYCLE SAFETY REPRESENTATIVE WHO WILL REPORT THE COMMAND'S MOTORCYCLE RIDER DEMOGRAPHICS TO THE IMMEDIATE SUPERIOR IN COMMAND (ISIC) AND ON THE MOTORCYCLE CENSUS LOCATED ON THE NAVAL SAFETY CENTER'S WEB SITE.



This policy applies to Navy Civilian employees; application to Contractors is not yet determined. It specifically mentions that failure to wear proper PPE is a violation of the UCMJ. That apparently applies when riding off-station. Also, since this is from the CNO, you will soon see the Marine Commandant's message to the Corps.
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Does this mean American Naval Personnel can not be trusted with owning and running a motorcycle properly but can be trusted with enough firepower to wipe out the world?. What are they doing about all the sick, injured and rehabilitating staff? surely they reduce readiness and are probably ten fold more. And how many die from car crashes, STD's or are discharged for drug use etc?.

Surely a bit more education and an offer of additional motorcycle training will be more productive than threatening disciplinary action.

Treat people like grown ups and most behave like grown ups, I,m sure nobody decides to go out on thier bikes and die.

Honestly officer I WAS only doing 60
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Does this mean American Naval Personnel can not be trusted with owning and running a motorcycle properly but can be trusted with enough firepower to wipe out the world?. What are they doing about all the sick, injured and rehabilitating staff? surely they reduce readiness and are probably ten fold more. And how many die from car crashes, STD's or are discharged for drug use etc?.

Surely a bit more education and an offer of additional motorcycle training will be more productive than threatening disciplinary action.

Treat people like grown ups and most behave like grown ups, I,m sure nobody decides to go out on thier bikes and die.

This is exactly why I got out of the Navy this year.

This isn't a matter of trust. This is the standard PR knee jerk. We all saw the peice on more Marines dying on Sportbikes then in Iraq. Some politician leaned on the Secrtary of the Navy who went after the CNO and thus....well **** rolls down hill.

Since the Marines are still Depatartment of the Navy (weather they like it or not) this is what happens. This is why any sailor/marine in 7th fleet (Japan) has a mandatory curfew and SERIOUS restictions on personal liberty. Because a of one or two **** ups a year.
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I hope anybody considering enlistment knows about this crap going in.
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Actually, guys-

I'll admit I was surprised that the Boss didn't just say, "That's it! No more motorcycles for junior enlisted folks!"

If you read the policy, it pretty much says that you have to take the course, be properly licensed and insured, and wear the proper PPE. And, of course, the outfit you work for has to know you have and ride a bike, so they can complete the reports that the military just can't do without.

The 'hammer' is where the military and 'civilian' riding are very different. Your typical civilian employer doesn't have a hammer, and they'd be slapped with a lawsuit if they tried to use one.

Educating our bikers is the tack we all say we want the states to take to reduce motorcycle accidents, rather than restricting use, speed, power, etc. So, this new policy makes sense. Try to prevent the crash, rather than deal with the aftermath.

To tell the truth, this will have zero effect on the majority of guys I know. They already do all the 'right stuff'.

However, I've several friends that will have a problem, since they prefer to go hatless when outside the base.
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This is just a step further than they have been in the past. before this order, the motorcyclist had to take MSF, wear a jacket, a helmet and gloves, along with boots that cover the ankle. they also had to wear reflective clothing when it was dark (morning or night, doesnt matter) so they could ride on base. I think it is a good thing, knowing how many people ride motorcycles on base in Pearl Harbor.

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I fail to see where this is anything for anyone to get upset about.

But some people will find the most innocuous thing to rebel against, while acting oblivious of what is actually significant.

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The government spends alot of money training its soldiers and sailors. It is merely protecting its investment.
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The government spends alot of money training its soldiers and sailors. It is merely protecting its investment.
Exactly! I'd take full advantage of the available safety courses!


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