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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 12-19-2018, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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When "when" happens

It's not a matter of "if" but "when" and last weekend, my "when" happened. After 30k over the last three years on the 99 955 ST I bought for my 50th birthday after not riding for 20 years.

Dark out, downhill wide one lane each way road with no stop signs for me and stop signs at the cross street. No lights at the intersection.

As I approached the intersection in the corner of my eye and with the lousy field of vision on my factory lights, I catch a young girl take off sprinting across the intersection on my left as a car approaching me passes her. I lock the front up, caught some sand and promptly dump it on the right side as she freezes like a deer 10ft in front of me. She's freaked out but comes out of it and crosses and has the look of seeing her maker. I have no idea how I came off but I'm guessing my cat like reflexes and mountain biking background kicked in and I honestly can't tell you if I rolled or landed flat footed.

My gear yields no hints, armored Triumph adventure jacket (the cheap yellow one they have been giving away at Revzilla for a couple of years now), Kevlar jeans, cheapish riding boots from Cycle Gear, FlyLow full leather ski gloves (it was in the 40s) and my trusty helmet. No noticeable signs of wear on the gear yet I have scratches/abrasions on both legs. Go figure.

The aftermath: No less than three different guys stopped to check on me and one helped me right the bike after I retrieved the right side saddlebag from the intersection. I sent the girl on her way with a kindly no problem, nobody hurt (as I successfully kept the urge to throttle her buried deep in my throat). It started right up again and I was able to ride the mile or so home.

The pain:

Lost my right footpeg, already replaced with an in-stock piece from the good folks at Foothills Triumph. So much for the spring activated folding action.

The bracket that goes into the locking section of saddlebag mounts is sheared off and I will need to figure out that one.

The right side large upper fairing is cracked in a number of different places, lost a quarter size piece near a mount but not in the mounting hole thank god and this fairing looks like it took the brunt of the pain. The brackets got pretty distorted as well from the impact as well as one of the mounting clips from the right front cracking off.

The folding mirror did its job and folded back out just fine.

Last night I started the process of taking off the side fairings and creating my 955 RSish bike with bags. Who knew there was a power plug behind the left mid fairing close to the saddle? Never noticed it before (I'd never taken off the bodywork). I am absolutely positive that I will cross the wiring into the OEM heated grips switch on the left side upon re-install, but I'm an idiot.

I've read a handful of repairing ABS fairings threads including the one from this forum and watched a bunch of videos. I feel armed and ready to tackle this on my own. The left side had scratches already from the PO so it is going to be a paint party once i get the right side all ABS glued up.

For what it's worth I am the guy that takes his bike in for an oil change. But after seeing exactly one already scratched up old replacement fairing on Ebay going for $199 I decided it's time to get handy.

First question, why do you guys do about the foam on the inside, it looks like it's glued in and I will need to tear it out to get to some of the cracks?

Thanks for listening, thank god I have ten days off for xmas and hopefully will have a good start on this winter project.

Any hints, advice, sympathy all appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob

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post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old 12-19-2018, 08:30 PM
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Sounds like you came through it much better than it could have been.

For the foam, Triumph uses some sort of tacky adhesive with a peel away strip like you'd see on double sided tape.
I'm pretty sure you can order just the foam pieces by themselves but, being Triumph, they'll be priced at ONE MILLION DOLLARS per side.

You could probably get it loose with Goo Gone or WD40 and a plastic blade and then clean it up and reglue it into place.
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Glad you are ok, bummer about your bike but it can be rebuilt of course.

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Glad to hear you're OK, Bob. Regarding the foam, you can get heat insulating adhesive foam (with a shiny metal layer) from a lot of car accessory shops. Just clean the old fairing inner well before sticking it on.

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What the other guys said Bob I think you got out of that pretty damned lucky go buy a lotto ticket mate!
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Wowza Bob! Glad you're ok! Chat with me, I may have some bits you need in bins in the basement, and I'm just across town. Plus I work in Lakewood.

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Thanks for the offer Scottie, I will let you know when I get the reassembly going.

I finished the side and belly fairing removal, taped up the heated grip and the outlet wiring, replaced the peg and jerryrigged the pannier locking mech. Then I got out and enjoyed my new RS in our unseasonably warm 60 degree day.

Does anybody just keep the side fairings off and ride it semi naked? I'm actually not adverse to the idea.

I did go through the gear again, I must have rolled as my helmet had some scuffs and my gloves are roughed up as well. Funny how it happens so fast I didn't even remember the off.

Today I got the ABS glue and will start stripping the foam and prepping for surgery. I will post some pics as I get started.
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After a long winter (we had snow three weeks ago) and hearing how caustic all the fluids were and needing ventilation and a place to work (my garage) I am just getting going on operation "fix the fairing." BTW, riding it without the midfairings hasn't been a problem at all and unless someone knows the bike, nobody has mentioned that it was missing pieces so god knows why I am spending so much time fixing the bits and pieces.

Last we spoke I had removed the side fairings and belly pan.

I started out removing the foam, thanks for the Goo Gone tip Steve, worked super easy and washed up easy.

So far I have fixed all of the cracks, plugged the hole and reattached 4 tabs (3 on the newly wrecked fairing, 1 on the other that must have been broken years ago when the PO had dropped it) using a half of a can of ABS cement and some plastic bits for bracing on the tabs.

I've sanded the **** out of both sides getting it down to smooth but roughed up texture. Started out pretty rough (36 or 38 or something to get the big bumps and decals off) then followed up with 400.

This weekend I will spray the primer and sand it down starting with 400 and building up to 1000.

Which brings me to paint and my first question this post, is there a more reasonably priced alternative to the $30+ per can Jet Black from ColorRite? I mean, we are talking Black, a beautiful deep jet black yes, but come on, $30 a can for black? I figure I'm going to need 2 at minimum and three more likely, to paint both sides mid fairings, the belly pan and the panniers. I'd rather spend $30 for three instead of $100.

Any easy options to get a 98% match vs. the exact match in a spray can?

I have the decals ordered coming from the UK for $20 instead of the $100 for a set at Bike Bandit.

Question #2, is there a preferred clear coat in a can that I should use, besides ColorRite's highly priced option?

I just hate throwing money at a 20yr old bike that I only paid $2,800 for 5 years ago and likely will only have another year or two before I upgrade to a GT.

Thanks all,
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Hi Bob. Glad you're getting it back together. Not sure about your black option. I don't ride the slow colored Sprints

If it were me, I'd buy a can of black spray (not lacquer) and try it on a test piece, like a coke bottle. Hold it against your good paint and compare.

As for clear, I'd use cans of 2k clear. It has a hardener activator in it. Worth the money, but I think Colorite is over priced. I've used Spraymax 368061, and it's like $22 on amazon. Not cheap but good

If you need help, I'm just across town, and a buddy and I are having a rear hub bearing servicing party soon, if yours needs it. I also have a vat of RG2 grease for that.





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ha ha ha, if it were an easier task to take the front section off I'd repaint the whole bike, I've always liked the dark green or maybe go off brand with a dark burgandy.

I'd love to get the axle greased, it's been quite a while, just hope you don't mind a newb with two left thumbs tagging along. Depending on when you're planning I could even bring the bits and pieces over for an assembly party. I am pretty booked all summer (two teen kids and an active wife) but let me know and I will try and make it. Go ahead and txt me at the Classic CO Area code-218-0080. Thanks for the offer.

I'm horrible about taking pictures but here is one just post crash and another in the state they are in right now.



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