They didn’t have the fob huh... yea yea ok, sounds more like, “we don’t want you to drop the higher tier model if you can ride the S and get the same experience”.
I came from owning a SV650 naked and I’m a bit surprised you find the Speed night and day when it comes to torque, the SV RIPS from very down low in the rpms, and before they screwed up with the Gladius (That must’ve been the ugliest, least bough bike and biggest deception in all-time) SV had killer looks, sure the turns weren’t as refined as the Speed and the front suspension bottoms out when riding potholes or speed bumps and it isn’t adjustable nor the shock. But that engine! It’s the most noble torquey thing you can find, it has more takeoff than the Honda cb1000 I once tried. It blew my mind. I couldn’t get off the thing. And paid less than $3000 for a spick and span all-silver ‘03 in 2007
Coming to the speed triple you’ll welcome the better handling and beefier suspension especially at 295, but you’ll have to brush up in your mechanical and electrical skills if you don’t want to spend an atrocious amount of money in service and electrical gremlins which will most definitely happen and in the first two years you’ll have warranty but there’s no rhyme or reason on when or how these will appear (read any of the threads on this forums) Also the speed has regular valves not like the hydraulic self-adjusting valves in your SV, another thing to consider but not a deal breaker as you’re better off not even adjusting them at all or maybe once at 20-30K miles and then never again.
These days Suzuki started making the SV again with the exact same engine just cosmetically uglier, not as much as the Gladius, maybe a halfway abortion between the two, just like the speedie. That tells us something. Solid models overall but one you can buy brand new for $7000. Just sayin’
If the sellers of the round-eye speeds weren’t so out of their minds I’d say get a pre-2011 with ohlins and all the bling your heart can take, with superior sound from factory, crazy sharp brakes and no electronic gimmicks cutting down your HP’s, timeless design and way quicker flickability. But these guys think they’ll get the same money they paid 8 years ago especially if it’s an S version with the stripe they don’t get off their horse. They think the have the last Diet Coke in the desert, and they do, but c’monnnnn
It very well could have been that they didn't want me to take the 0 mile RS they had when they had an S model 3 feet away, either way, I'm extremely happy I had a chance to ride a Speed Triple. The night and day difference is likely 2 things.
First at 295, I'm more than an average load to get moving and the speed triple has nearly double the torque of the SV at peak (82.6 lb-ft to 47.2 lb-ft) so it would stand to reason the Speed Triple with its significantly higher displacement comes in higher across the rpm range (both redline at 10.5k iirc)
Second my SV is a multiple generation learner bike. I bought it from someone who bought it from someone else, who probably bought it from someone else. It was a sub 2k investment to learn to ride a bike. Once I have the Speed Triple, the SV will be the bike I learn to ride on the track without worrying about crying over money if I crash it. I had to take apart the carbs and get the crud out when i bought it, and the exhaust smells like they're still running pretty rich. In the colder months like February, it's not noticeable, so I might leave that alone (took me a week to get them to run right the last time). The rich carbs along with the age and misuse of the bike are probably contributing to it producing less power than the stock numbers are advertised to be. I know I need to do some other corrective maintenance to it, valve seals are probably leaking a bit, I go through about a half quart of oil a month (1000 miles almost entirely highway).
I agree the SV is a nice friendly stable platform, but one of the previous owners put GSXR1000 clip ons on the front. At least the cables were done properly, but it's quite uncomfortable for longer rides and while I can do all of my parking lot drills (yeah, I'm a safety nerd and do parking lot drills every couple weeks) it always feels a little weird with the angle my body is at while holding the clip ons and making tight maneuvers. The Speed Triple felt a whole lot more "natural", if that makes sense. The height the clip ons at their highest and the distance between the seat and the triple clamp make an awkward riding position for a 6 foot tall guy. In retrospect, I feel a little bad for my buddy, who I had ride the bike from where I bought it to my house, because I didn't have a license yet at the time.
I think overall, due to my size, the speed triple fits my body ergonomically better and while I was initially afraid I'd have to get the suspension resprung and possibly revalved to deal with the heavier springs, it seems that unlike the SV650 where even putting a bigger shock on wasn't sufficient (Kawasaki 636) to keep me from bottoming out on hard acceleration and bumps, the Speed Triple handles my weight without getting unexpectedly twitchy or bottoming out on rough roads.
My fault for bringing up the SV. It's my current bike and it's my basis for comparison, so when I say the Speed Triple feels absolutely perfect for me, that's in reference to the SV I've spent so much time on.