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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-20-2019, 09:21 AM Thread Starter
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2005 Ran out of fuel, won't restart

Just picked up a 2005 Speed Triple 1050 that has a bit of an issue. Previous owner ran it out of fuel on the road, then when they put fuel back in it, it would not start. Any ideas were to begin on diagnosis?

Part of me thinks it might have just hurt the fuel pump.

Thanks in advance,

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Interesting. Maybe some crud lurking at the bottom of the tank got pulled in? You may have to pull the pump out and inspect the screen. I'd check the fuse for the fuel pump too, especially if you don't hear it prime when you turn on the ignition. Let us know what you find out.

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Interesting. Maybe some crud lurking at the bottom of the tank got pulled in? You may have to pull the pump out and inspect the screen. I'd check the fuse for the fuel pump too, especially if you don't hear it prime when you turn on the ignition. Let us know what you find out.

Any idea what years/other bikes are compatible fuel pump wise? Grand scheme of things for what I paid for the bike plus even a brand new fuel pump I am still going to end up ahead on this thing as an alternative to the Ducs in the garage.
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What happens when you turn on the key (before attempting to start) - can you hear the pump whine for about 3 secs (the priming step)?
It should do that every time you turn it off/on again - or just setting the Kill/Run to Kill, then Run again.
You can check for 12V across the pump connector but remember it will be only be there for 3 seconds when you first turn it on
i.e. set probes across connector, turn ignition on (operating the Kill/Run is easier) and get 12V for 3 secs, then will go to zero - turn off/on and check again.

If you do NOT get 12V, then check
a) Fuse #4
b) The Fuel Pump Relay (swap it with the Cooling Fan Relay)

Other status questions:
Are Neutral and Oil Lights on when you turn on ignition?
Cranks OK, just does not start?
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Pump is good to go now. Spark is good on all three coils/plugs. Fuel injectors are not firing upon starting.

Need to get some paper clips because my multimeter probes aren’t small enough to get to the metal parts on the connectors for the injector harness. Thoughts? The gas I drained out of the tank was NASTY to the 10th degree.
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Have you checked the fuel filter?
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I’m having starting problems too, possibly fuel system related. I have a post going on about it looking for illumination.

I’m curious if you could get your bike started and add an additive to your gas like seafoam, it could maybe clear your injectors assuming they work and are just gummed up. I get my bike to start by spraying a little starter fluid in the air box.
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If the spray starts it , itís a fuel delivery issue. Start simple : filter, fuse, pump and clean tank. Check fuel rail for blockages. Nasty gas clogs everything. I just went through that when I picked up a 02 st that had been sitting awhile. Check for vacuum leaks at the throttle bodies and not plugged or cracked. I changed everything rubber and fuel fittings. It fired right up clean. It also had a pc3 which I took off since it ran like crap with it on. Under $100 for everything and about 3-4 hours of work. These bikes are so easy to work on , even a caveman can do it.

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Starter fluid did not start the bike unfortunately. Even sprayed while cranking
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Is there a pic of how all the vacuum lines go? Some are missing and some are shredded 😕
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