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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-18-2019, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Buying a '16-'18 Speed Triple; Any common issues or things to look out for?

How goes it everyone?

Looking to get back on a bike now that I've left the military and life has settled down a bit. Last bike was a '14 Street Triple R and I had a blast on it.

I've been looking specifically at a newer Speed Triple R; it seems the 2016-2018's are a nice balance of second hand value proposition and good chances of finding a lower mileage bike (I'm shooting for a 1-2 owner 2000-3000 mileage bike, tops).

Does anyone know if there are any common known issues with the 2016-2018 model year Speed Triples? I've done some digging and I can see that a rough 1st to 2nd gear shift is common, but havn't really found anything common other than that.

Any tips on specific things to take a closer look at when examining a used Speed Triple from this model year range?

Thanks for your help fellas!

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Triumph worked out all the past issues with the 16 and 17.
Had a rectifier recall on mine in 2017.
Gas gauge quit working and that was replaced under warranty. Tech didn’t get the fuel line plugged in and it quit running on way home.
I have a 2019 now and stopped by dealer to buy a new helmet today. They said my old bike started leaking gas last night in showroom. Guessing it’s same issue reoccurring.
Otherwise it was reliable as a hammer.
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Thanks Cburt! Would you kindly detail some of the past issues that you're referring to? If I pickup a '16 it will likely be completely out of warranty so I'd need to handle them all out of pocket/on my own i'm afraid, assuming said issues were not already addressed by the previous owner.
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Thanks Cburt! Would you kindly detail some of the past issues that you're referring to? If I pickup a '16 it will likely be completely out of warranty so I'd need to handle them all out of pocket/on my own i'm afraid, assuming said issues were not already addressed by the previous owner.
I’ve had 4 Speed Triples over the years. Sprinkled in I had a Sprint, 1200 Tiger and 800 Tiger.
Only bike out of all of them with issues was the 1200 Tiger. It was the first year production for that bike.
Otherwise all my Speed Triples have been totally worry free.
As I mentioned my 2016 had a fuel sender go bad which affected my gauge readings.
The tech botched plugging fuel line into tank and it came off during trip home. Not Triumphs fault.
That was last fall and apparently it’s leaking now or has come off again. Dealers issue, I traded last month for the 2019.
I did call and advised on what I thought could be wrong. If the line come loose and you turn on the key the fuel pump will pump all the fuel out onto garage floor. 😳
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Appreciate you sharing your experiences! Happy riding on the '19!
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I just purchased ‘16 R with just 1300mi arrows, led triumph signals, fender eliminator kit, crg levers and alarm last month and I had replaced under warranty quite a few things, luckily the bike was purchased late in the year from dealer since the warranty expired last month. So it does depend on when it was purchased.
I claimed the mirrors being to flimsy at the pivot ball and getting out of position at high speeds. They replaced mirrors for the same ones but these didn’t move as easy.
The voltage regulator and alarm under recall.
And luckily found an oil leak seeping thru the valve cover gasket so they fixed all issues without a hitch.
If you’re looking for an upgrade from the street, you’ll love this bike regardless of the year, now there has been a loss of “character” from 2011-2017, and the dry spell is basically, sound (pretty meek, even with arrow cans) power (nothing mind blowing over the older 1050’s) design (loss of the cool factor, aka bug eye and organic style frame) and electrical gimmicks (why have a track mode if I have to select it every dam time I turn the dammmm bike on)
Phewww that’s a load off, anyways I paid 8200 for mine, don’t let them swindle you, especially the dealers asking for 10k and not going down a penny for a bone stock R, what a joke... private sellers on Craig’s is the way to go even if you have to travel. I rode mine down from NY to Miami. Yep, the cherries were pretty frozen.
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Right on Nicspeed, thanks for the advice.

I'm looking at a '16 R right now /w light mods (akra slip on, ASV brake lever, fender eliminator, heat wrapped headers) @ 2300 miles from a private seller, no warranty remaining. He's asking $9000. I'm going to go check it out next week and planned to offer him ~$8K'ish depending on how the bike checks out.

Also multiple leftover '17 R's @ $10K from various dealers, have yet to inquire how negotiable they are on the price but I'm not interested in really paying any more than $8.5K regardless since I know I'll easily be able to find sub-3K mileage examples from the '16-'18 range at $7-$8K at the end of the season/next winter.

Hopefully I'll find something to pull the trigger on soon enough.

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Aw man I feel like I snatched up your bike, I picked it up in Queens! And sorry for the following rambling. But I think it’s all worth to beware of.
That one looks like a winner, if he’s willing to go down to 8500 at least. I’d ask;

1- Why the header wraps? (Covering perhaps a big asz dent or puncture) since that bike doesn’t have the mad max vibe at all to do that, hopefully it’s just bad taste. Also the wrapping promotes higher fumes temperature at the catalytic converter and mufflers burning them out prematurely. But no need to tel him that, just be on your toes on what he answers.

2- Did he do the maintenance himself or took it for the 500 mile service to the dealer? If he did it himself, what exactly was done and at what mileage. If he doesn’t know, not a deal breaker but that tells you something about his dedication.

3- Was the battery replaced? If so what brand. Batteries aren’t as easily accessible as the 1050’s so what you’re trying to avoid is to ride off with a $90-100 battery that WILL leave you stranded (bikemaster, autocraft, drag etc) if they went cheap, replace with a yuasa, wouldn’t recommend a lithium replacement since you live in jersey and the cold temps won’t let the battery warm up as easy greatly reducing cranking power.
Pretty sure the original battery is kaput if he still runs that.

4- Did he take it in to address the recalls? Rectifier/reg bracket must be replaced with a revised one or eventually will short the cables that go near it according to Triumph, and the alarm (if included) must be replaced straight up. If he didn’t, no biggie, just figure out how to get those cables out of the way of that bracket without compromising function. And alarm, (horrible, horrible alarm that goes off for anything) worked properly before I replaced it. I got the new one and put it in a box for sale. Up to you. No big deal.

5- Check all gaskets for leaks. Selling such a new bike for almost half of what he paid doesn’t make sense unless he impregnated a whole team of cheerleaders. I missed the leak at the valve cover gasket, but luckily mine was still under warranty. This one doesn’t, beware of real problems. Potential deal breaker here. Or at least he should go down to 8k not a penny more. The valve cover is kind of hidden, not plain to see. Gotta get in there under the red plastic cover with your phone’s flashlight. No shame in being extra curious at the sale.

6- Who installed the Akra’s? Did they change the map, was it a custom one or Triumph’s high mount arrow map? If he didn’t do anything and installed himself, you probably won’t notice anything wrong with it, but performance will be far from what those cans can offer.
Regardless, there is an updated version for that map at the dealer, they can load it up if not free for like 30min labor ($70?) triumph mechanic that this update makes the bike run better (HP and smoothness) since the original released had to conform with EURO4 and Cali emissions laws and wasn’t optimal for the engine. Now that they passed they can play around a bit more.

Btw my levers are also ASV, mistaken it with crg. They’re nice levers, they’re the “unbreakable” model I think, they bend out all the way to avoid snapping it off half way in case of a fall. Also have a rugged texture that feels great to touch.

If he’s throwing in the cowl and original mufflers etc. fine, you can sell whatever you won’t use and recoup a few bucks.

Get an OEM Daytona late model tailpack for $50 don’t forget the mounting harness! At the OEM section in bike bandit, if the bike is matte grey it is exactly that color and hard case expandandable with red liner. And yes exactly the same subframe red 😉
If the bike is not gray pretty sure fashion police will let it slide.
Triumph is so ashamed of the poor quality coating on that tailpack model that’s practically giving it away lmao.
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Right on Nicspeed, thanks for the advice.

I'm looking at a '16 R right now /w light mods (akra slip on, ASV brake lever, fender eliminator, heat wrapped headers) @ 2300 miles from a private seller, no warranty remaining. He's asking $9000. I'm going to go check it out next week and planned to offer him ~$8K'ish depending on how the bike checks out.

Also multiple leftover '17 R's @ $10K from various dealers, have yet to inquire how negotiable they are on the price but I'm not interested in really paying any more than $8.5K regardless since I know I'll easily be able to find sub-3K mileage examples from the '16-'18 range at $7-$8K at the end of the season/next winter.

Hopefully I'll find something to pull the trigger on soon enough.
Probably get the dealers down to mid 9’s if you haggle. Worth a little extra for the 2 year warranty and piece of mind how it was treated.
16 an 17’s are identical so there’s no reason to flip a coin there.
The 19’s are worth the upgrade IMO. Huge difference in overall package although they look the same.
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GREAT info Nicspeed!

Kamber, you probably have checked out Cycle Trader but in case you haven't, here's a couple of new leftover S3s that are somewhat close to you:

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...ack-5003554477

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...e-R-5006822733

Good luck finding your ride!

Bring out the gimp.
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