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but I don't see manufacturers rushing back to the drawing board in fear of losing sales to the new triumph 1050.
Neither do I. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on overall sales here, but I think the RS will struggle here as you can currently purchase the APE Factory with Akra for $1k less or S1000R for $3k less.

So far five RS's have sold here in NZ, though we were late getting them.
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Neither do I. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on overall sales here, but I think the RS will struggle here as you can currently purchase the APE Factory with Akra for $1k less or S1000R for $3k less.

So far five RS's have sold here in NZ, though we were late getting them.
Yeah, that's a good point that I forgot to bring up. The price. Here the Speed RS is $16,200 plus taxes and fees, so figure $17.5k out the door, realistically.

That's a lot for a bike that is now in the ballpark of the other bikes, but doesn't really beat them. As you mentioned, the Tuono 1100 will run circles around it, for less money and a terrific V4 sound...

The Beemer is wicked fast. Just a stock 1000r with a $250 FlashTune, will put an honest 170hp to the wheel, no other mods needed... The Super Duke, is just an orange Hulk with wheels, it's a beast...

The naked literbike segment has really picked up steam in the past several years. At one point it really was just Speed Triples, Monsters and the old Vtwin Tuono's...

Then you saw the Duc Streetfighter 1098 up the ante, then the Diavel, the Tuono moved to a V4, the SuperDuke 1290, then the S1000r... Everyone put out really solid bikes and easily left the Speed in the dust...

They gained back some ground, but it is still behind the other bikes, to varying degrees, but now it costs as much or more, and so in a way, it still falls short.

For $3500 less you can have a Street RS, which while down 15-18hp, it also weighs like 60lbs less and handles better, cheaper to insure too... For the money, the Street is the better buy and while it doesn't have the midrange grunt, it's a fast bike and screams and I think is a better bike for most people...
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For $3500 less you can have a Street RS, which while down 15-18hp, it also weighs like 60lbs less and handles better, cheaper to insure too... For the money, the Street is the better buy and while it doesn't have the midrange grunt, it's a fast bike and screams and I think is a better bike for most people...
Yeah see the Street RS is $6k cheaper in our currency.
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Yeah see the Street RS is $6k cheaper in our currency.
Wow, that's a big difference. It's a lot of bike for the money.
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Actually I was taking your advise , that last one was from Toombstone. Also just for the record I met someone the other day who has never seen Pulp Fiction.
Wrong, just wrong!
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Hey Squire what do you think of the Suzuki GSX-S1000F as a street bike?
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Hey Squire what do you think of the Suzuki GSX-S1000F as a street bike?
Nothing wrong with a Suzuki. They look nice, are well made, built to last and solid performers. They check all the boxes on the tangibles list...

That said, they are bland and uninspiring. I have had several, and the only one that ever had any character was my old TL-1000R track bike, mainly because it was a big, lumpy vtwin sportbike without the Ducati price tag.

There is nothing WRONG with the GSX-F. But once the new bike wears off in a week or two, it's just a bike. There is nothing special about it, and you will never find yourself parking it, walking halfway down the block and stopping so you can turn around and look back at it... My GSX-R750 was a brilliant bike, it did everything well. And it was boring.

If you want a Japanese naked sportbike, look at an MT09 or an MT10. You get all the quality and fit and finish and reliability of a Japanese bike, but they both have a lot of character... the MT09 has a great 3 cylinder motor, and the crossplane inline 4 of the MT10 sounds like my Tuono V4 1100.
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Actually I was taking your advise , that last one was from Toombstone. Also just for the record I met someone the other day who has never seen Pulp Fiction.
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As to the S1KR. supposing my knee could fit into the bike, I rode the sdr and s1kr on the same day, rode my 2013 s3 to the dealers and I was just as excited riding both bikes but for different reasons that I started shopping ins. holy smokes! the sdr is $300 a year $65 more than the s3 the bmw was $1700. I wonder if the 20 hp bump for the s3 is going to do anything to that cost or will it slide under the radar? I would expect the modern electronics to help offset the power increase.
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The price is the major concern. I wanted to add a naked bike back to my stable, alongside my Pani 959. I really liked Boston's Speed RS. But for $16k+ taxes and fees?

So I scored a 2018 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100RR for $13.5k plus taxes and fees. Has all the electronics of the RS, auto blip, the works. Doesn't have the Ohlins, but for the cost savings, don't really care, it's not needed for the street. Also has pit limiter, and both traction control and wheelie control can be adjusted on the fly, on the throttle, as you ride in real time. No entering modes or having to pull in the clutch... just hit the paddle on the left control pod and it does it instantly... I tossed on a slipon and flashed to the race ECU with free software and $30 cables, and will get it on the dyno shortly, but anticipating 160hp or so at the rear wheel.

That is a lot of bike for the money, and as brilliant as the new RS is, I couldn't justify spending the extra money when there are bikes like this out there, cheaper, with more power and stuff... Even the Tuono V4 1100 Factory, is currently cheaper than the Speed RS...
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