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Not that it makes a huge difference, but I have the TBS dry weight as 494 lbs.

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[QUOTE=pb9717;2003885540]Yes, the TBS is 535lbs dry , the Speed Twin , 432lbs. TBS 82 HP @ 8500rpm, Speed Twin 96 @ 6500rpm. So, I'm starting to see why someone would consider it. TBS 885cc, Twin 1200cc.

My owner's manual states the dry weight of the TBS is 224 kg = 493lbs, dry. Porky enough but at least sub 500.
I could probably afford a new Speed Twin if I sold my Tiger XRx and my TBS.....but that will NEVER happen.
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Itís just a fashion accessory. Even over a standard T Bird, dubious logic in selling for 4K and buying for 12k. Quality and durability would never match up.


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I've been pondering your post jcniven. Not sure what you're referring to, a fashion accessory?....If you mean the Speed Triple, it looks like a lovely bike to me. It's just a lot of money to spend for a naked, classic - with all it's rider aids and a distinct lack of practicality. But then, my TBS suffers all of the latter with none of the former. And gives me a happy heart having it.

I love to take extending moto camping trips and feel fortunate to have found a lightly used '15s 800XRx with hard cases, top box, Madstad screen etc. with 5k miles on it that I could afford. After a 650 Vstrom, Sprint ST, Breva750 and a CB500X, it's the perfect tool for my needs.
The TBS on the other hand is a beautiful piece of machinery/sculpture that evokes dreams of my youth - and still performs well on the road (though I've yet to really prove that with the winter and all..)

I would say for the amount of seat time I'm likely to have on my TBS, the $3k I spent on it is well worth it. Money aside, I prefer its looks to the Speed Triple, too. I'd venture to guess you feel the same about your Thunderbird. But, what is the "fashion accessory"? Or is that the Scottish sense of humor coming through?
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I've been pondering your post jcniven. Not sure what you're referring to, a fashion accessory?....If you mean the Speed Triple, it looks like a lovely bike to me. It's just a lot of money to spend for a naked, classic - with all it's rider aids and a distinct lack of practicality. But then, my TBS suffers all of the latter with none of the former. And gives me a happy heart having it.

I love to take extending moto camping trips and feel fortunate to have found a lightly used '15s 800XRx with hard cases, top box, Madstad screen etc. with 5k miles on it that I could afford. After a 650 Vstrom, Sprint ST, Breva750 and a CB500X, it's the perfect tool for my needs.
The TBS on the other hand is a beautiful piece of machinery/sculpture that evokes dreams of my youth - and still performs well on the road (though I've yet to really prove that with the winter and all..)

I would say for the amount of seat time I'm likely to have on my TBS, the $3k I spent on it is well worth it. Money aside, I prefer its looks to the Speed Triple, too. I'd venture to guess you feel the same about your Thunderbird. But, what is the "fashion accessory"? Or is that the Scottish sense of humor coming through?
You mean "Speed TWIN"? correct?

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yes. Thank you.
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TBS vs Speed Twin

That Speed Twin is a beautiful bike, but have been riding the triples since the 73 Trident and just love the way they feel and the sound is awesome. Have the extra tank, side covers and fenders to change over whenever. Have around 30K on the odometer and has never left me stranded. Have the off road mufflers, gaiters, bar end mirrors, k&n air filter, full windshield, sport windscreen, tankbag, tailbag (for the long trips) and centerstand.
When they ever have the demo rides, will take that Speed Twin out for a test ride
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I owned one [TBS] for a few years, always thought that they were underpowered tbh. I ended up selling it and going back to my T150V with the 1000cc kit [and other stuff]...which is faster even though its 44 years old and from a bygone era. The TBS was more comfortable on longer trips, but only marginal, handling was about the same IMO. The Trident wasn't as nimble but had a much lower centre of gravity and felt much more stable. The TBS was sharpish in handling and probably a bit better in tight stuff. But was top heavy and needed some muscle to ride it hard in corners.
The Trident was way better for saddlebags, pillion and a load, the TBS was abysmal in that area, a pillion and/or load affected the handling quite a bit.
They are a nice looking bike in a classic Japanesish sort of way and I can understand why others love them, just try as I might, I just couldn't work up the same enthusiasm for the TBS.

One word of warning to all owners....remove the plastic tool bag from under the seat and wrap it in a rag or store it somewhere else. I had one of the spanners fall out and then onto the swingarm, this then got sucked up by the chain and wrapped itself around the front sprocket sandwiched between the sprocket and the chain. This bent the rear axle, front sprocket shaft, shattered the chain adjuster and the spacer, and other stuff. Also gave me a brown moment!!!

I have a spanner round here somewhere that is a perfect C shape as a memento.


The new 1200 twins look like a good thing and I would have bought one maybe, but I am on a project [already have the 1100 kit, cams, D+D exhaust, Keihen FCR's, head flowed with bigger valves, Carrillo rods etc etc all sitting in my shed] and building up an 1100cc version of the 865 Bonnie, hopefully finish that this year. Plus I prefer the idea of a 360.
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Ditto re toolkit. I had a 10mm Allen key go straight through my rear tyre, completely inside the tyre!


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