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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-16-2019, 09:58 PM Thread Starter
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Triumph instrumentation cluster & ABS adapter/eliminator (CAN bus)

Newer Triumphs (2013-ish) have locked down their ECU and also made it dependent on the dash and ABS unit being there to even allow start the engine.

Finally I have been able to create the necessary hardware interface and decode the data on the CANbus of my Street Triple 2013. From this we're able to run the bike without the stock dash and extract the run time data such as RPM, Speed, Fuel level etc.

Useful if one want to put aftermarket instruments on, or eliminate the dash all together for a stunt bike or similar.

Work is underway to be able to eliminate the ABS module as well.

Now I'm thinking about making a batch of these small devices that hooks up to the dash connector, bolt on, plug and play. But is it worthwhile? Is there any interest out these in such a device? I will make it an dash adapter so its possible to either ride without a dash altogether, or hook up some aftermarket instruments to the device.


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Newer Triumphs (2013-ish) have locked down their ECU and also made it dependent on the dash and ABS unit being there to even allow start the engine.

Finally I have been able to create the necessary hardware interface and decode the data on the CANbus of my Street Triple 2013. From this we're able to run the bike without the stock dash and extract the run time data such as RPM, Speed, Fuel level etc.

Useful if one want to put aftermarket instruments on, or eliminate the dash all together for a stunt bike or similar.

Work is underway to be able to eliminate the ABS module as well.

Now I'm thinking about making a batch of these small devices that hooks up to the dash connector, bolt on, plug and play. But is it worthwhile? Is there any interest out these in such a device? I will make it an dash adapter so its possible to either ride without a dash altogether, or hook up some aftermarket instruments to the device.


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Man that sounds sketchy, no?
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Hi Tobias

This is the standard Triumph 16 pin plug I spoke about...

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Hi Tobias,

I notice you're in Sydney, whereabouts? I'm in St Ives and I've been messing with Triumph ECUs and clusters for a while so would love to hook up with you.

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Just wondering. How complex is the signal that the ECU is looking for from the dash? I've read about varying degrees of sophistication, from a simple signal to flag that the dash is present, to a model specific code through to a more complex challenge/response algorithm that may be model specific or even vehicle specific.

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Hi Tobias,

I notice you're in Sydney, whereabouts? I'm in St Ives and I've been messing with Triumph ECUs and clusters for a while so would love to hook up with you.

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Hi! Yes I am. I'll send you a PM.

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Just wondering. How complex is the signal that the ECU is looking for from the dash? I've read about varying degrees of sophistication, from a simple signal to flag that the dash is present, to a model specific code through to a more complex challenge/response algorithm that may be model specific or even vehicle specific.
It more towards the later option. Fixing a couple of bikes now with my module so we will see how vehicle specific it is.

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Hi Tobias,
I got a notification you sent me a pm but for the life of me I can't find 'Messages' on the forum. Whereabouts do I look and click?

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Hi Tobias,
I got a notification you sent me a pm but for the life of me I can't find 'Messages' on the forum. Whereabouts do I look and click?
Click "User CP" on your top right.

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