America seat alternatives - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums
Cruisers - America, Speedmaster Cruiser chat for America and Speedmasters

 5Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 08:40 AM Thread Starter
Grand Prix 500
Main Motorcycle: 2018 TIGER 1200 XRT
Senior Member
 
Duff-on-2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: OHIO - Lorain County
Posts: 123
Other Motorcycle: 2016 Bonneville T120
America seat alternatives

Can anyone recommend a good seat for the America? I have a new 2016 America LT (has just under 500 miles) and Iím already finding the seat very uncomfortable. It wasnít bad in the beginning but itís getting much worse now that the seat is starting to break-in and get softer. I feel squeezed & pinched with lots of pressure on the back side of my tailbone after only a few minutes of leaving the driveway.

I was also wondering if the SpeedMaster seat is much different than the America seat. It appears to be a little slimmer / harder and might allow me to rotate my hips a little. (Or maybe the stock seat I have now will continue to break-in and 'thin-out' a bit and relieve the pressure - I don't know.)

I'm over 6 feet tall, 205 lbs. and have a 34" inseam so I donít want anything that pushes me more forward Ė I certainly donít want any more bend in my arms & legs.

I like so many things about this bike but I need to able to ride for more than 25 minutes without the serious discomfort.

Duff
HANGOUT likes this.
Duff-on-2 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 12:23 PM
Site Supporter
Grand Prix 125
Main Motorcycle: 2009 America Blue/White
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Utah
Posts: 33
Other Motorcycle: 1976 Bonneville
Duff...... that's been my complaint about the America is the pain in the tail bone area after even short rides. I haven't tried different seats yet but things that I have done that help some is getting progressive shocks, a gel seat pad and backrest. The backrest helps me because if there are any big bumps I can push back on it a little to lift my butt off the seat. It also forces me to keep from slouching which always puts me more on my tailbone instead of my hip bones. The gel seat pad was a stop gap measure before I decide to rebuild my stock seat. I think rebuilding with some gel or better foam would improve comfort. There are other seat manufacturers out there and plenty of people that have gone that route. I believe the real issue is the posture the foot forward position puts you into. The best fix probably would be to get pegs mounted underneath you or at least significantly more to the rear from where they are now. I think newbonneville or Fast Eddy had mid mount pegs for sale at one point but it entails getting rid of your passenger pegs to make it happen. Expensive too if I recall.
I'm about the same size as you so I feel your pain. Don't want to be closer just want to be off that tailbone. Ouch.

Oh, I just remembered I put bar risers on my last America and bringing the bar up and back seemed to help keep me from slouching too. Something to consider.

-Ryan

Edit: https://www.triumphrat.net/cruisers-a...elocation.html
That's a page here on RAT that lists both an attempt to move the pegs and other links to pages that people have moved the pegs if you want to go that route.
downtheroad and HANGOUT like this.

Last edited by Rv_az; 04-27-2017 at 12:30 PM.
Rv_az is offline  
post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 01:13 PM
Production 125
Main Motorcycle: 2009 Triumph Speedmaster
New Member
 
Dan Boli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Leicester MA
Posts: 5
Garage
Duff,
Had the same problem on my 09 Speedy. We are around the same size. First thing I did was put risers on to bring the bars back and that helped then I put on an airhawk pad that can be adjusted and finally bought a saddelman gtec seat which gives me some back support. Only use the airhawk for long rides Hope that helps.

Dan
Dan Boli is offline  
 
post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 01:28 PM Thread Starter
Grand Prix 500
Main Motorcycle: 2018 TIGER 1200 XRT
Senior Member
 
Duff-on-2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: OHIO - Lorain County
Posts: 123
Other Motorcycle: 2016 Bonneville T120
Thanks for the advice Ryan / Dan,
Although, it's disheartening that it doesn't sound like there's a quick or easy fix available like I'd hoped. At this point I'm not sure if I should spend more money trying to find a solution (that may not exist) or just take the hit now and trade it in on something that fits me better.

I got the America as a compromise because my wife wanted something she could ride too - the low seat was why she liked it (Got a great deal on it too). It fits her well, but now (after her MSF training class) she's decided it "feels too heavy" and won't even attempt to ride it.
I actually think it's a great bike except for this big comfort issue.

The Triumph dealer closest to me has a new 2016 T100 (same engine as the America) so maybe I'll go and check it out.

Duff
HANGOUT likes this.

Last edited by Duff-on-2; 04-27-2017 at 02:48 PM.
Duff-on-2 is offline  
post #5 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 01:59 PM
Site Supporter
Grand Prix 125
Main Motorcycle: 2009 America Blue/White
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Utah
Posts: 33
Other Motorcycle: 1976 Bonneville
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff-bucket View Post
Thanks for the advice Ryan.
Although, it's disheartening that it doesn't sound like there's a quick or easy fix available like I'd hoped. At this point I'm not sure if I should spend more money trying to find a solution (that may not exist) or just take the hit now and trade it in on something that fits me better.

I got the America as a compromise because my wife wanted something she could ride too - the low seat was why she liked it (Got a great deal on it too). It fits her well, but now (after her MSF training class) she's decided it "feels too heavy" and won't even attempt to ride it.
I actually think it's a great bike except for this big comfort issue.

The Triumph dealer closest to me has a new 2016 T100 (same engine as the America) so maybe I'll go and check it out.

Duff
I won't help with your decision because when I had my first America I put in lots of money to fix this exact issue. Rivco risers, Fast Eddy Backrest, Progressive shocks.....made it much more enjoyable and at the time my wife loved to ride pillion so the bike was perfect for that. I wanted a little more sport to my ride so I eventually traded it in and got a 2012 Bonneville. Great bike. The wife liked riding on the America more than the T100 but the T100 was much more comfortable right out of the box for me. I still put Hagons on the T100 but otherwise didn't touch the seat. I love the America as this is my second one and don't plan on getting rid of this one but I've already put on all of the improvements I had from the first one. I'm looking currently into putting on a second set of pegs underneath me like in the link I shared. Good luck in your decision but I would at least keep the America a bit longer to see if you get used to it or if a minor change will improve the comfort. Any accessories can be taken off and sold.
Rv_az is offline  
post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 04:39 PM
Grand Prix 250
Main Motorcycle: Triumph America
Member
 
Americaoak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: San Juan Mountains Colorado
Posts: 61
Other Motorcycle: '94 jeep wrangler
Howdy Duff. The Air Hawk is a good solution for long rides. I too have one and use it just for long rides. The big difference for me is that I made a drivers back rest. Used an old sissy bar rest and built a couple of brackets so it could mount up on my back. I have crossed the US twice (Western Colorado to N.C. Camp Lejeune and back 2 times around 5,000 mile round trips) and found it very comfortable. (Though I usually don't put in many more than 400 + miles per day) I also put on floor boards instead of pegs and that allows me to move my feet around which helps to relieve some back pain. ALSO you can't believe what a difference it makes when you are riding in the rain!
I have thought about the risers that others talked about and after reading their post think I might do so.
I know this isn't about some aftermarket seat I bought but the Air Hawk really helps for long distance. I recommend it.
Oak

Oak
Americaoak is offline  
post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 07:55 PM
Minitwins
Main Motorcycle: Speedmaster
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 11
I went with a corbin on my 2016 speedy I love it, tail bone issues gone


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
ccorbin1975 is offline  
post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 09:40 PM
SuperSport
Main Motorcycle: 2018 HD Road Glide Ultra
Senior Member
 
Wakinyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cumberland, RI, USA
Posts: 1,066
Other Motorcycle: 2013 Triumph America
Extra Motorcycle: Was: 2012 Triumph TBird
Garage
Mrs' America - Mustang seat w/ rider backrest. Tried the stocker, then with an airhawk (a couple styles), then Saddlemen, then to the Stang. She's done a couple of 9 day trips now with me, and the Mustang's been the best for her so far.
kimbo996 likes this.
Wakinyan is offline  
post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-27-2017, 11:36 PM
Site Supporter
Supersport 600
Main Motorcycle: 2013 Triumph America
Lifetime Premium
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Jupiter, Florida, USA
Posts: 181
Other Motorcycle: None
Extra Motorcycle: 2017 Dodge Challenger SRT
Hi Duff - By now you've seen almost everyone has problems with the stock seat, and mine were the same as yours. I've got a Corbin now which solved my lower back and upper butt issues, but it's a hard seat pad. Since it cost $1000 I'll keep it, but I wish I had looked at others for a softer seat. Once upon a time they made seats with springs in them...........................Good luck.

Jupiter Bob
rwm33418 is offline  
post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-28-2017, 08:37 AM
Powerbike
Main Motorcycle: 09 America
Senior Member
 
Gargoyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: North Jersey, USA
Posts: 371
Other Motorcycle: 79 T140D
Extra Motorcycle: 73 TR7RV
I had the same exact problem.
Tried several solo seats and none were comfortable for more than 15 - 25 minutes.
Had to go with the Saddlemen Explorer, now I can ride for a couple hours before I need a break.

http://www.saddlemen.com/seat-explorer-america-


http://www.saddlemen.com/seat-expl-rs-america-


http://www.saddlemen.com/seat-expl-gtech-america-


http://www.saddlemen.com/seat-expl-sp-br-america-

I checked my "white privilege"and it was never there.

Last edited by Gargoyle; 04-28-2017 at 08:43 AM. Reason: Links
Gargoyle is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options
All posts must adhere to Forum Rules

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter your valid email address, that can receive an automated confirmation message. Otherwise, you won't be able to gain full access.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
T120 Comfort Seat on Street Twin DIY zoan Water Cooled Twins Technical Talk 16 10-22-2017 06:25 AM
Street Twin seat question J M L Water Cooled Twins Talk 11 08-21-2016 07:07 PM
Bonneville Seat Mod msinghv Air Cooled Twins Talk 14 02-25-2016 09:37 AM
Which other triumph model's seats fit the Tbird? rocket-girl Hinckley Classic Triples 8 07-05-2015 12:55 AM
Solo Seat For 2011 Triumph America Advice Please Happy Pappy Cruisers - America, Speedmaster 10 04-12-2015 12:05 AM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome