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post #21 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-29-2018, 10:24 AM
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I am an aging marketing guy as well as a Thruxton(2013) rider. Perhaps there are fewer of us from that era still bike shopping. Or perhaps, the younger crowd (my son included, Suzuki SV 650 rider) that don't recognize or appreciate (worship?) the vintage style, and prefer the higher performance oriented bikes and crotch rockets.

Although , just like classic cars, I am seeing more and more classic bike restorations/programs on the TV, as well as a clear upward trend in older motorcycle values at auctions etc among collectors and perhaps riders too.

My free advice to Triumph is yes, develop new product lines to serve the younger crowd and the speedsters among us. But don's lose sight of your roots, and also remain loyal to the classic style, simplicity and appeal, that in my books remains relatively unique to Triumph, and is the reason why I bought my Thruxton, and elected not to buy the current day version. The carbon fiber laden edition is NOT a branch off of the same tree! In my opinion anyone that thinks it is, is kidding themselves!

So what makes Triumph a classic retro bike for you? Where do you draw the line?

Must have carbs, or is EFI ok? Must have spokes? Must have a 3D classic tank badge vs a stick on decal? Everyone has their own idea. What's yours?
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post #22 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-29-2018, 07:00 PM
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Thruxty I am old school been riding british twins for over 43 years now still own my Norton from new, have had a few classic Triumphs and same as you I have a 2013 Thruxton (Brooklands Green) I always wanted one since they first came out and now I have upgraded to the Thruxton 1200S (Compertition Green) being a old school rider I still keep up with the times and the new models still have that classic style and looks, if you jump on a new Thruxton and ride it for a few hours and I will tell you, you won't look back, they feel great on the road what ever Triumph has done these new Thruxtons are so well balanced and feel so much lighter under hand on the road compared to my older Thruxton.
Remember this new Thruxton is just a one off build, but then if they sell who knows what Triumph will do and remember we are living in 2018, the old days are gone and with rules changing from GOVT involvement the motorcycle industries have to keep with the rules as well as the times and where ever I park both my Thruxtons I get a lot of comments about my bikes even from older ex british bike riders.

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post #23 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-29-2018, 09:27 PM
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I am generally okay to happy with the motorcycles from Triumph up to this point. However, it does appear some models have features that are unnecessary cost adders...an example that recently comes to mind is the 1200 Scrambler. Six riding modes with lean angle sensors for both abs and traction control....this sounds like something from the BMW playbook.

My main issue is that Triumph is now selling sizzle and calling it genuine and authentic. I know this model has worked with Harley up to now but adding alot of non government mandated cost adders will gradually price themselves out of the market.. I don't need my bike to make a status statement or to make myself feel superior. In fact I kinda resent that kind of marketing.

I'd be more happy with the 1200 Scrambler with a windscreen and hard bags and they could keep their sensors and six modes. Let's stop pretending the Scrambler is something it is not.
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I am generally okay to happy with the motorcycles from Triumph up to this point. However, it does appear some models have features that are unnecessary cost adders...an example that recently comes to mind is the 1200 Scrambler. Six riding modes with lean angle sensors for both abs and traction control....this sounds like something from the BMW playbook.
More than likely what the vendor had on the shelf, not Hinckley pushing the envelope.

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post #25 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-30-2018, 12:23 PM
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It's not the BMW playbook. More like the KTM playbook. Now the reality. Trickle down from racing and sportbikes. Lot easier and cheaper to add the electronic gizmos than updating the engine platform to a higher performance level and to impress new riders. The position seems to attract new riders by letting them know that there is a safety net just like on your car and you really don't need to be intimidated on learning how to ride. In fact, just buy the bike, take a one hour instructional course and your're all set. That's the cynic in me.
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So what do we all think of this special edition Thruxton R - called Triumph Factory Custom or TFC - that was shown at the latest Triumph dealer event? 10 hp more than the current R, 5 kg less, ohlins fork, Metzeler tires, new headlight design, dripping with carbon fiber, race exhausts, only 750 to be produced.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the looks but this special edition might offer some clues about what the next generation of Thruxton R will be like...
Cheesy stick on badge on the tank, and, I'm sorry, I just can't get into a
270 degree crank Triumph Bonneville. It's like having a new Harley with an
inline four. It just doesn't work and doesn't sound right. Tradition matters.
I know, I'm just a cranky old man......
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post #27 of 58 (permalink) Old 11-02-2018, 04:38 PM
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Cheesy stick on badge on the tank, and, I'm sorry, I just can't get into a
270 degree crank Triumph Bonneville.
It's like having a new Harley with an
inline four. It just doesn't work and doesn't sound right. Tradition matters.
I know, I'm just a cranky old man......
Triumph designed this new 270 engine tp produce more torque.......which it does.

And i know that because my dad rides one and when he rolls it on, his new 1200 Bonnie is very hard to catch!!!
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Cheesy stick on badge on the tank, and, I'm sorry, I just can't get into a
270 degree crank Triumph Bonneville. It's like having a new Harley with an
inline four. It just doesn't work and doesn't sound right. Tradition matters.
I know, I'm just a cranky old man......
I use to think the same till I brought my new Thruxton 1200S and I can do wheelies without dumping the clutch, just up shifting from first to second is enough to lift the front without even trying, but I still like riding my old Thruxton and Norton each bike has its own character and I am a cranky old man that just loves his twins.

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The bike will depreciate the same way all those limited edition Ducati superbikes did. Including the Desmosedici.
Just like my 88 851 Tricolour Factory Kit.

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I think Carbon bits on a classic style bike look out of place. I think my regular R looks better.
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