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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-01-2018, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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thruxton up/down quick shifter

Like some of you out there I've been browsing the internet or an up/down quick shifter for the thruxton 1200 and R. We unfortunately don't have the most popular performance bike out there and it's looking like we would have to add something non model specific to make this happen.

I've been emailing Roy over at proshift and he is saying thier bump blip 2 system will work great for more street than track riding. He said he is willing to give a 20% discount on a group order of 3 or more units which takes the price from 1199GBP down to 959.2GBP.

Still a lot of money for a quick shifter set up I know. I know I can't afford it anytime soon but if some of you can and want it, get a small group together on here and email Roy at [email protected] and drop my name (Ian, with a yahoo email address) to jog his memory about the discount.
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Wow that's a lot of money and without a very confident assurance of how it will work. I mean, what the heck does he mean "thier bump blip 2 system will work great for more street than track riding" How the heck does a quick shift not work on the track? I think I'd keep looking elsewhere for a solution...
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Wow that's a lot of money and without a very confident assurance of how it will work. I mean, what the heck does he mean "thier bump blip 2 system will work great for more street than track riding" How the heck does a quick shift not work on the track? I think I'd keep looking elsewhere for a solution... <img src="https://www.triumphrat.net/images/TriumphRat_2015/smilies/tango_face_plain.png" border="0" alt="" title="Serious" class="inlineimg" />
I may have been paraphrasing so I'm going to copy and paste the two emails. But first the link for the bump blip two system from their website is https://www.proshift.com/the_proshif..._shifter_ii_tm

The first email from them : Hello Ian,



Thank you for your enquiry, no problem to help you with this.



We make a Quickshifter/Downshift Auto-Blipper combined system that we call the Bump & Blip II, this provides you with clutchless up and downshifts once moving, upshift cuts can be set very leisurely with lots of post ignition cut ramps to smoothly restore power and the same applies to the downshift blipper.



I believe the Thruxton 1200 has Conventional Cable Operated Throttles so this would require our electromechanical Remote Cable Blipper to provide the seamless clutchless downshifts.



The “B&B II” features two gearshifting maps that can be programmed to have a softer and sharper maps, call it street and sport, these are switchable whilst in motion.



I have attached a document that explains the “B&B II” in more detail so please read through it and I will be happy to answer any questions that you might have.



The Bump & Blip II System with Remote Cable Blipper is £1199GBP



Thanks again Ian, I look forward to your reply.





Kind Regards.


The second email : Hi Ian,



Thank you for your honest reply and I think I might have good news for you.



If the Thruxton 1200 R has DBW (Drive By Wire) throttles then this changes things for the better, this is because if they are then I do not have to provide the motive force to open the throttles.

We have just developed our Self Teach Blipper which measures throttle voltages and allows you to pick a throttle opening percentage, this is necessary as all bikes/cars throttles behave differently and with that the required throttle openings and trigger points need to be adjustable, we have been making throttle blippers for over 15 years and the “one size fits all” rule is not good.

It is worth noting that the Bump & Blip II will be transferable to any bike with DBW throttles in the future because all the parameters are adjustable.



I can give you 15% off your “B&B II” which brings it down to £1019.15GBP however if you can get three orders then I can give you 20% discount.



Please let me know your thoughts.





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Seriously? It's a 5min mod with about $200 worth of parts. The ECU already has the quickshifter implemented and it just needs the sensor connecting to the already existing socket.
I wrote a blurb on Facebook about it. Here it is unformatted, but gives you the gist:

How to create and install a QuickShifter for the Triumph Thruxton-R
JASON SOBELL·MONDAY, JULY 30, 2018
A few people have been asking about how to make these themselves, so here’s a quick and simple guide.
You will require:
An M6 x 35mm turnbuckle, with Left and Right threads (~$2.50)
e.g. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Baja-Rea...n/371988550746
An AMP Connector 174352-2 to connect to the bike’s OEM connector (~$5 for 3 inc shipping)
e.g. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-Se...504132341.html
Any push-activated torque switch that is about 45-50mm body length (not including rods and integrated threaded bolt).
Examples include FastBikeGear, Shifting-Control, DynoJet, FT, TransLogic and Nexup, although any switch that advertises as being compatible with a PCV should work fine.

The ‘Shifting-Control’ unit is the cheapest I've seen so far at only $110 plus shipping: https://shifter-france.com/accueil/1...cteur_triumph2

The FastBikeGear appears good value too at about US$160 plus shipping.
Installation:
Solder the connector to the end of the wires coming from the shifter (either way around, it’s just an on-off switch)
Remove the existing rod from your bike. Screw the turnbuckle and existing ball-joints onto the shifter, make it the same length as the original unit (if possible), then fit it back in place.
It is possible to do the job without removing the ball-joints or selectors, but if you do this then take care not to twist and damage the wires to the shifter
Connect the plug to the socket behind the plastic cover behind the left footpeg (it's hard to see, but slides over a plastic lug and can be easily removed). Note that there is already a ‘dummy’ plug fitted to protect the socket. Make sure you remove this before attempting to plug your connector in!
Route and cable-tie the cable nicely to avoid it melting on the exhaust
If the selector is too low for your foot angle and you can't get enough adjustment from the turnbuckle, remove the selector from the end of the splined selector, turn it to the desired angle, and push it back onto the splines. Make sure the selector still moves freely
The bikes ECU is already set up to accept the shifter, so go have fun!

Bike with a few things added, such as... me. I prefer riding my bike to bragging about the chromed rear foot-pegs. Does that make me strange?
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Seriously? It's a 5min mod with about $200 worth of parts. The ECU already has the quickshifter implemented and it just needs the sensor connecting to the already existing socket.
I wrote a blurb on Facebook about it. Here it is unformatted, but gives you the gist:

How to create and install a QuickShifter for the Triumph Thruxton-R[...]
yes we talked about it here
https://www.triumphrat.net/2003695497-post29.html

but its not a blipper ! this method can't downshift

but 1200 is too expansive
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Ah, OK. Never had any use for a blipper, and never really needed a quickshift but had one around so used it for the novelty factor

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If I was going to do a quick shifter I want it to go both ways, I don't see a point in getting one for just upshift. That's why I've been searching the web since triumph doesn't feel like making an accessory kit anymore as far as I can tell. And from what I'm finding so far there is only about 3 companies that make kits with a way to blip on downshifts that doesn't involve an after market ecu Which is my personal goal
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For me this all a little silly. I have a quick shifter on my Aprilia Tuono and yeah its kinda neat but honestly its just not worth getting excited about. To me its more of a novelty than anything really useful.
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I want one (obviously lol) but I don't have that cash for a play thing. It would be nice and fun for commuting and fast mountain rides to get a little more fun out of a ride. My thrux isn't a track only bike for a racing series. One of these days I'll commit to getting it making one that goes up and down, but not at this moment. Just trying to spread the word of what I'm finding so far and if others can afford it, letting them know of deal they could get with what proshift would offer thiers for.
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