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Question $$$ Value of '66/'67 T120R Bitsa

I just met a new friend who wants to sell his '66/'67 Bitsa T120R and I told him I'd try to get an approximate value. He's an auto mechanic but not a motorcycle guy.

Bike in very good condition but clearly a Bitsa: '66 Frame T120R DU38669, '67 Engine T120R DU59413; Nicely painted tank in dark-medium blue with luggage carrier on top, pre-60's speedo (small), custom gauge mount with unusual oil pressure gauge, Headlight bucket w/ammeter looks period, '70's front brakes, new levers & handlebar, looks like '70's seat.

Engine converted to single Amal 930 with T120R cylinder head and adapter intake manifold feeding both intakes from one carb. Never have seen this intake manifold before. Similar to the one on my T100C, but new.

Didn't get a pic, but I can if necessary.

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Single carb on a splayed-port head? Never seen THAT!

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Tough to say what it MIGHT sell for, especially since even the deep south is already getting record freezes; wrong time to be selling.

Maybe $3,000 or more, just no way to guess without a photo...
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Single carb on a splayed-port head? Never seen THAT!
Neither have I Paul. Will try to get photo next week........poor guy thinks it's worth $6k to $7k because it's a '67 Bonnie - I tried to help him see why that's not the case. He took the bike in trade for some work he did for the owner.....

When I saw the single carb, I was telling him it was a Tiger or TR6 head, and he said, no, look here....I need to look again - thinking now the ports were flat on one plane, and not splayed like a Bonnie head.....what kind of head would that be?

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I agree with Paul
I’m not seeing bikes sell for much more than 3500 in overall “good” shape. This is news from my customers snapping up bargains. Just took in a 69 Commando Fastback runner for 2500 and it rides!




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Gator my friend that intake manifold intrigues me and I would love to see a picture of it.

As far as the valuation. No comment.

Which VIN does the title state?

There have been many long and at times not real friendly discussions here about non matching VIN bikes. Personally I will not purchase a Triumph unless it's a matching number vehicle. Bitsas like this are great for everyone else out here but I don't need to nor want to deal with the possible legal stuff.

The seller is a car guy and may not understand. He took it on trade and wants to turn it for what may be a little bit more than it's worth. Expectations and reality are sometimes two different things.

Personal opinion is that the paper should match the frame numbers. If the paper matches the engine number is where I can see the possibility of a problem. It would be like selling a car with a replacement engine and having the title reflect the vehicle as being the same as the engine donor vehicle.

Example you install an engine from a 73 Chevy Impala in your 57 Chevy Bel Air. The vehicle is still considered to be a 57 Chevy not a 73. Maybe if you point this out he understand a bit better.

Again looking forward to pictures and you have a great day!

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If the two ports were parallel, it could be either an original single-carb head or a late dual-carb (non-splayed) head.

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If the two ports were parallel, it could be either an original single-carb head or a late dual-carb (non-splayed) head.
With regards to the late Model T140E head then it would have 750 barrels also.

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Thanks all - hope to get pic this week, will see if he knows what is on title. Agree with you K, would not touch a bike w/o matching numbers.....

Denisj - wow - you stole that Commando - worth twice that according to Hagerty's.....would love to add a Commando to my stable - at that price........love to see pics.......

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Thanks all - hope to get pic this week, will see if he knows what is on title. Agree with you K, would not touch a bike w/o matching numbers.....



Denisj - wow - you stole that Commando - worth twice that according to Hagerty's.....would love to add a Commando to my stable - at that price........love to see pics.......


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