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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-16-2019, 02:26 AM Thread Starter
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Bike Identification if Possible

Can anyone identify either of these bikes. The one in the front (burnt orange) is supposed to be a Triumph, bought new in around 1970/71. Owner reckons they were the same bike, but other owner reckons they may have been BSAs.Bike Identification if Possible-1971-london-preparing-for-bike-trip.jpg

Any ideas appreciated, and apologies for poor quality photo but it was 1970s!

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Back one is a BSA Gold Star [nothing to do with the real 500cc Gold Stars].....from around 1971, a single cylinder 250cc.
By the flash on the tank the front one is a Triumph T25W Trophy also from 1971.
But there was little to distinguish a Triumph T25W and the BSA Gold Star apart.
By this time Triumph had retired the Cub and was using BSA C15 motors. So technically they were a marriage of BSA and Triumph.

Others on here might provide more detail?

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Some photos of the Triumph TR25W and BSA 250 Gold Star.

Just out of interest, is there a back story behind the photo, I see the UK number plates and what looks like NW City of London in the background, but also the big "AUS" sticker on the top box.
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Some photos of the Triumph TR25W and BSA 250 Gold Star.

Just out of interest, is there a back story behind the photo, I see the UK number plates and what looks like NW City of London in the background, but also the big "AUS" sticker on the top box.
Ah yes a picture of a 1971 with a battleship grey frame.


Both pictures are a time warp Citroen DS, VW Beetle, Cravens and the fashions. How do you kick over a bike with those bell bottoms?


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As per Triumph ad from '77 (but very carefully!)

Or your more sensible and take them off!!

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Well you know the guy on the Triumph is not to bright starting the bike on the sidestand.


That the type I would love to give a 441 Victor to start




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Citroen DS, VW Beetle,
In case you were wondering, the white car behind the group and next to the Beetle is a Vauxhall Ventora or Victor - reason for the very US styling is Vauxhall were part of GM at the time. The one behind that is a French Simca and the one behind the guy on the right is likely an Austin 1100 or 1300 estate.

The architecture is typical north-west, west and south-west London close to the centre. The blocks are known as "mansion blocks", mostly built in the latter part of the 19th century. Each storey is usually groups of four large self-contained flats around a stairwell; depending on the length of the block, can be more than one stairwell and group.

Wayne, any more info.? Is this a picture of you or your parents in 1971 in London - Earls Court? As the Beesa has a Birmingham registration, were these bikes bought as Personal Exports (without Purchase Tax, could be ridden in GB for a certain time but then had to be exported)?

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I just look at the load they have on the bike/s and think that maybe an elephant would have been a better purchase. Poor little 250's would have the tongue out and panting hard going up a hill of any sort

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Back one is a BSA Gold Star [nothing to do with the real 500cc Gold Stars].....from around 1971, a single cylinder 250cc.
By the flash on the tank the front one is a Triumph T25W Trophy also from 1971.
But there was little to distinguish a Triumph T25W and the BSA Gold Star apart.
By this time Triumph had retired the Cub and was using BSA C15 motors. So technically they were a marriage of BSA and Triumph.

Others on here might provide more detail?
Happy to oblige.

And the BSA C15 was derived from the Triumph Terrier/Cub engine in the first place.

Then came the 350cc BSA B40, the C25 Barracuda and various versions of the B44 Victor, the B25 Starfire (and the Triumph TR25W equivalent), and finally the oil-in-frame B25SS & B50SS Gold Star & B25T & B50T Victor Trail & B50MX plus the equivalent Triumph T25SS Blazer and T25T Trailblazer (the Triumph 500, the TR5T Trophy Trail/Adventurer, was a Triumph twin engine squeezed into the frame used for the singles).
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