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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-18-2019, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Suzuki tls cafe racer

Not really a triumph question but what was the TLS Suzuki brake that many people put on Brit cafe racers?
I. Might have the chance of one
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What are you saying exactly, Dave ? Does it bolt straight up on T140 forks and what rotor do you use ? I imagine the Triumph unit ? What is the advantage ?
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I think it was from the Suzuki T500. (Get confirmation from someone else also)
I do not know if any other models were fitted with a twin leading shoe brake.
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what was the TLS Suzuki brake that many people put on Brit cafe racers?
You sure you mean a TLS (twin leading shoe)? Aiui, the Suzi brake that has the special builders wetting their pants is the 4LS, from early GT750's and GT550's (not sure if it was fitted to T500's?). If you do mean the 4LS, they're infamous for cracking, especially if from the heavy GT750.

Otoh, what would be the advantage of a Japanese TLS vs. a British TLS?

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what rotor do you use ?
A "TLS" is a drum brake ...

Hth.

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Isnít there a Suzuki TL or something, some v twin sport bike ? Thatís what I thought he was referring to. I canít see the logic of putting a twin leading shoe brake from a Suzuki on a Triumph so I figured he was talking about a sport bike caliper that fit our forks.
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Yeah, sorry guys. It must be the 4LS. I had the chance of a T500 TLS.
My mistake.

The 4LS has "the look"
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Isnít there a Suzuki TL or something, some v twin sport bike ? Thatís what I thought he was referring to. I canít see the logic of putting a twin leading shoe brake from a Suzuki on a Triumph so I figured he was talking about a sport bike caliper that fit our forks.
Yes. TLS and TLR sport twin bikes. Engine is a 90ļ V twin a la Ducati. Predecessor to the SV1000 sport twin.
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just to go off on a tangent (as these topics sometimes have a tendancy to do) -- i recall that the old Honda CB72 and / or CB77 had a TLS REAR brake - must have been interesting in the wet
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just to go off on a tangent (as these topics sometimes have a tendancy to do) -- i recall that the old Honda CB72 and / or CB77 had a TLS REAR brake - must have been interesting in the wet
Almost as interesting as the T140
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