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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 04-12-2015, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
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Charlies filter kit fit, Tiger 750.

Finally got round to buying my Charlies types filter kit, I have had a filter fitted to the return line for 3 years in an attempt to extend engine life and reduce the speed my sludge trap fills up. I'm going belt and braces now by also fitting a Charlies.

Simple job I know nut I'd just ask you fellas first if you have any tips and any other jobs I could tackle whilst at it eg. a wash out of the oil tank/frame tube?
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I guess it would make sense to replace the rubber pipe if it is old, and I think that the new cnc'd ones that people have reviewed on here had slightly tights holes? So they opened them up slightly.

Other than that, unless your bike is an early one with the internal pipe, it just
Pops on. I suppose a wash with a paraffin gun might be worth it if you have one
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There is no need to clean the frame oil tube.Look in from the bottom and you will find nothing sticks to it.
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Just swap & go really Tommy. My only advice will either be irrelevant or too late, because it is to avoid the Burton bike Bits type kits and get a Motao kit (the CNCd plate Dave referred to above). They are miles better in every way, and if you shop around, cheaper too.
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Bu**er seems I have gone and bought a non cnc higher quality item!!

Have done a search and yes they look much better quality than the one I have which is cast.

Why did I not ask this question before I purchased? I wonder if TMS will take it back?

Research twice, buy once!!!
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Aye, bugge* indeed! Try a magnet on the outlet stub. Some of the pattern sump plates have this as an integral part of the casting, and they are VERY fragile (as I found to my cost). It seems several places make these plates, as most seem to have the proper pressed in steel outlet tube (I'm pretty sure TMS's kits have the steel tube).

The Motao kit has several advantages, including that the threaded rod that runs through the filter is threaded into a blind hole in the plate, meaning no possibility of leaks from there. They also have a threaded oil outlet pipe, meaning you can hole it with a 3/4" spanner and unscrew the whole plate from it, without having to disturb the hose's fit on the stub when changing the filter. They also have a strong magnet in the drain plug. They also have a cutout across the bottom, to allow clearance for the centrestand (the normal type have a domed nut right where the stand's cross-member is, which gets slammed into every time you roll the bike off the stand). And they're also rather beautifully made.
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And, when you replace the filter element you can use a Wix 57203 which has a larger diameter (twice the filter area of a standard replacement Charlie element) and is a 1/4 of the price (out here anyway).
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to be fair, I have had a "genuine" charlie's from 84 and it is fine.

It uses a genuine Meriden part with steel outlet. The central stud can be prone to weeping if you don't take care but mine is fine.
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I did have some sludge inside my frame. I sprayed it out with brake cleaner. I also have the cast spigot plate with a through hole for the stud and it wasn't threaded. It leaked. When I had it apart I lengthened the stud and put two filters in and used sealer on the stud hole with a fiber washer on each side. It's worked fine since.
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where can you buy the Motao kit in the UK from.
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