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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-17-2019, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
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I've Got Them Turn Signal Blues

As much as I hate to, I've just got to admit it and ask for help:

I absolutely suck at remembering to cancel my turn signals after a turn.

I almost always had at least one street-legal motorcycle from 1964 to 2004. The times I didn't have one never lasted more than a month or two. Sometimes they were my only means of transportation and other times they were an optional means, but if I had a bike I rode it a lot. I don't remember having this problem back then, but a lot of those motorcycles didn't have turn signals.

From 2004-early 2018 I didn't own a bike. When I sold my bike in 2004 I promised myself that I was going to be the first owner of the next one and I wouldn't buy it until I could walk into the dealership and write a check for it. There were several times I could have done that, but I had basically lost interest by then.

Well that changed in April 2018 when I decided it was time to ride again and yeah, I wrote a check for my Bonne T120. It was easy to get back into the groove and I've put almost 16,000 miles on it in the 16 months I've owned it — and I hate to think of how many of those miles that I've ridden with the turn signal blinking.

So why am I admitting this?

Well, I'm hoping some of you will have some words of wisdom for me that will help me break out of this rut I'm in. My fellow motorists and riders deserve better.

BTW, I don't have this problem in my car, but it has self-cancelling turn signals. One more problem that seems to be exacerbating the situation is the indicators in the tachometer aren't very attention-grabbing during daylight hours. As far as I'm concerned, they should be amber instead of green and they should be a lot brighter, but that wouldn't matter if I just had the self-discipline to turn the damned things off.

So how about it? Anyone have any constructive ideas?

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-18-2019, 01:27 AM
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I absolutely suck at remembering to cancel my turn signals after a turn.
So how about it? Anyone have any constructive ideas?

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I've learned to keep pushing that button whether it needs it or not.

Some BMW I owned in the dim past had a warning beeper which was just loud enough. Suppose you could wire one in easily if you can find one for piece of mind.

A quick search found this replacement relay beeper. There must be many others. http://turnalarm.com/

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I just keep my thumb right under the switch as my reminder to cancel the signal.
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Why dont you just get a signal canceler then, there are several varieties available, several threads on here about them.
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In the same situation after returning to biking. On my refresher course, instructor was laughing as I completed the entire final assessment with my blinkers flashing. Somewhat entertaining at the time but obviously I had a problem that continued when I rode.

I can recommend:
https://safer-turn.com/

Works well, a little tricky to install, so pay attention to the instructions as some splicing required. Has proven very reliable and effective after two years. Check out the videos! Don't be put off by sourcing from Eastern Europe. They were responsive to my email questions.

Hope this helps. Good luck, Thruxty.
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I've learned to keep pushing that button whether it needs it or not. ....
+1. When I started riding, I frequently forgot to cancel my signals. Then I started to make the conscious effort to hit my turn signals several times to cancel them after every turn, and often times, every few minutes when going straight. After awhile, it became habit and I continue to do that to this day.

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Thanks for the replies so far.

Couple of points I probably should make:

The ideal answer, at least in my mind, is some kind of mental exercise or similar solution that would develop better habits.

As for a mechanical/electrical solution, I'm not totally opposed to that but the 2018 T120 turn signals are completely controlled by either the ECU or the electronics in the instrument cluster (I've heard both). There is no conventional turn signal flasher and if there was this problem of mine would already be solved.

Also, I've been employed as a mechanic of one sort or another for about 52 years. I currently work in industrial automation, but I spent the first 20+ years in the vehicle repair trades including as the lead electrician in many of the shops I worked at. In other words, modifying stuff isn't much of a challenge to me, but the idea of modifying my Bonne in ways that can't be restored to OEM state isn't a direction I'd like to go (and splicing cut wires back together isn't restoring them to OEM state).

So I'd prefer to fix the problem between my ears.

On a final note, Triumph offers a whole host of technological advancements on their new range of motorcycles. My Bonne has electronic ignition and fuel injection, traction control and anti-lock brakes, a digital instrument cluster and optional factory cruise control. It can nag me when it's time for service, so why the hell can't it nag me if I forget to turn off the turn signals? That, or turn them off for me? Why, Triumph? Why?

AND BY THE WAY TRIUMPH: I'm seriously considering buying a 2020 Rocket III GT when they hit the showroom floor, but I'll have to finance it and I'm not convinced I want to do that being as my Bonne is such a great bike. But the decision would be a lot easier to make if the new Rocket III had self-cancelling turn signals.

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On a final note, Triumph offers a whole host of technological advancements on their new range of motorcycles. My Bonne has electronic ignition and fuel injection, traction control and anti-lock brakes, a digital instrument cluster and optional factory cruise control. It can nag me when it's time for service, so why the hell can't it nag me if I forget to turn off the turn signals? That, or turn them off for me? Why, Triumph? Why?
CanBus or not, wasn't aware there was no flasher relay. Assume you are certain.

As for the other tech, it's mandated by regulations and readily available from vendors. Triumph buy off the shelf. Find a bike with a self-cancelling set-up you like and see who did the electronics. I'm guessing not available and/or workable for the Triumph application.

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I feel shame when I leave my blinker on. It's a complete loss of cool. Doesn't matter what you're riding, makes you look like a rookie, or look like you're high, or in the early stages of Alzheimer's.
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One comment on self cancelled. You learn to become dependent on them and then there's that turn that's not enough to cause the cancel (at least I have seen with my cage) and so you're wondering why even more folks than usual are pulling out in front of you. If you feel you actually need a mechanical aid, the very loud beeper or maybe some sort of light you can't ignore might be the better option.
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