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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-12-2019, 02:11 PM
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I would add the 1968 Yamaha DT-250. More or less started the (enduro/dual-purpose) craze. Got alot of people on motorcyles and into the woods riding.

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I would add the 1968 Yamaha DT-250. More or less started the (enduro/dual-purpose) craze. Got alot of people on motorcyles and into the woods riding.

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Well Iíd personally agree. In 1971 a DT250 was the first full size motorcycle I rode when I was 14 years old. It belonged to a friendís big brother and for some reason was stuck in 2nd gear, which made it interesting (no neutral either). We used to ďstealĒ it and thrash the sh1t out of it after school in vacant land behind the houses. It was a big step up from the SL70s Iíd learnt on at a track and was a real turning point for me giving me the itch Iím still scratching.
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It's funny, today they call what we knew as enduros - dual sports

My first bike was a Suzuki DS 100, which was enduro, but I only rode it in the woods. Got it when I was 12.
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The XR75 and Trail 90 from Honda were great. The 750 Commando from Norton gets great reviews, but was a lousy bike. There are many bikes from Guzzi, that were better than BMW of the same year. The latest Triumphs deserve mention. CanAm made the best dual purpose bikes in the seventies. The 500 Manx Norton should be in any list, but they probably do not want race bikes. The early liquid cooled Scotts were nice.

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The early liquid cooled Scotts were nice.
Yup, the Scott Flying Squirrel should be on that list.

And regarding Guzzis that were better than BMWs... one of the few Hand built V-7 Sports that made it to the US. RH shift up for first.
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I had two of the V7 Sports, a '73 and a dual disc '74.
Nice looking bikes, generally well made with questionable electrics and really underwhelming performance.
The 850 LeMans which followed was a big step forward for Guzzi, they would move right along when you nailed the throttle.

I just remembered shooting through an intersection when that 4LS drum brake lost all its stopping capabilities after riding in an all day downpour.
That will get your heart pumping.
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I had two of the V7 Sports, a '73 and a dual disc '74.
Nice looking bikes, generally well made with questionable electrics and really underwhelming performance.
The 850 LeMans which followed was a big step forward for Guzzi, they would move right along when you nailed the throttle.

I just remembered shooting through an intersection when that 4LS drum brake lost all its stopping capabilities after riding in an all day downpour.
That will get your heart pumping.
The early V-7 Sport's electrical gremlins were mostly the small starter motor without the Bendix.
Drop a later model T-3 starter in one and the electrical system was fine. Handlebar switches were junk but that's why there's Yamaha dealers.

If you really knew your stuff setting up the 4LS brake it was just fine. Riding ANY drum brake in the rain requires premeditation. If your didn't then it was Fred Flintstone time. Lots of road racers of that era did nicely with Cerriani and Grimeca 4LS brakes in the rain.

Have a real sweet spot in my heart for my V-7 Sport and saw lots of BMW S and RSs in the rear view mirror on twisty roads. My early hand built V-7 Sport was cammy as hell and pretty fast when you wound it up.

By the time the LeMans showed up I moved on to 900 Desmo Ducatis. Worth the change if only for the sound... the handling and speed were nice too. Bevel gear cam drive... the way God and Dr. T meant them to be.
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Being a long-time flat track fan (and amateur competitor), I've got to nominate the Harley XR750. After all, it's won the most races in the history of American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) racing.

If the XR isn't old enough for you, then I'll pick the Harley KR.

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Being a long-time flat track fan (and amateur competitor), I've got to nominate the Harley XR750. After all, it's won the most races in the history of American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) racing.

If the XR isn't old enough for you, then I'll pick the Harley KR.

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The XR 750, if only because it was Evel Knievel's bike of choice in his later jumps.
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Being a long-time flat track fan (and amateur competitor), I've got to nominate the Harley XR750. After all, it's won the most races in the history of American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) racing.

If the XR isn't old enough for you, then I'll pick the Harley KR.
Gotta give credit where it due and that's to the evolution from the K to the XL883 in 1957.

That begat the incredible lineage of the XL/XLCH/XLH/XR series that still exists today.
And that proves that given enough time anyone can finally figure something out.

The XL series Sportster brought us the Bonneville unit twins, BSA unit twins, Norton Commandos, Royal Enfield Interceptors, Kawasaki Ws, and the Yamaha XS650 twins just to name a few.

The competition fought out on the racetracks and sales floors brought the motorcycle industry out of the shadows into the big time with Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda making it "acceptable" to ride a motorcycle.

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