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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-26-2018, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
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Beeline Moto - Smart Navigator

Just thought I'd share what I found today... Minimalist Smart Navigator on Kickstarter. Looks pretty cool and handy!

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-26-2018, 03:24 PM
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That does look pretty cool.

I've been considering a phone mount for my T100 to use winth my Moto G5+. But, display visibility in sunlight is awful, and phone mounts are all rather kludgy. Besides that, Google Maps is generally lousy in navigation mode: the display is too busy, text is too small, you can't navigate using "dragged" routes, and so on. I'd spring for a Garmin (I love my GPSMap 60 for geocaching and hiking), but any sort of custom routing involves Garmin's basecamp app which is a deal-killer: when I tried it on a friend's machine it was utter crap (and I can't run it anyway, since it requires Windows or MacOS).

With the Beeline, I'd be concerned about longterm support. But for the price, I guess as long as it lasted a couple years, it would be worth it.

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That is very cool, I made a pledge to support the campaign and look forward to owning one, thanks

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I read through the beeline web pages and it wasn't very clear, but the
beeline-moto doesn't actually incorporate a GPS receiver, correct?

It's acting as a display for the smartphone app which must remain
connected to it during operation?

I've noticed that GPS accuracy and sensitivity of phones varies
significantly, but even the best of them are pretty poor compared to
something like Garmin handheld. My current Moto G5 isn't bad, but the
GPS on my previous phone (a Moto G4) rarely worked inside a vehicle.
And the failure mode was particularly heinous: it didn't indicate it
couldn't determine location, it would just show a location that was
out by 10-15 miles.

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My biggest concern about the Beeline (just sent a message to developers to confirm) is that I assume -- I don't really understand the technology -- that if one were to pair the Beeline to one's smartphone then that would eliminate the possibility of a simultaneous bluetooth connection to my comm unit (Sena).

I don't think I want to end up in a situation needing two smart devices for a road trip.

Sometimes being an adult means recognizing what it is you want... and running like hell in the opposite direction.
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that if one were to pair the Beeline to one's smartphone then that would eliminate the possibility of a simultaneous bluetooth connection to my comm unit (Sena).
Hopefully the developer agrees, but I don't see why that would be an issue. Routinely your phone can be paired to >1 BT device. One perfect example is always having my smartwatch paired to my phone even when using BT audio like headsets and my car stereo.

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Hopefully the developer agrees, but I don't see why that would be an issue. Routinely your phone can be paired to >1 BT device. One perfect example is always having my smartwatch paired to my phone even when using BT audio like headsets and my car stereo.
Ugh. You're right. I was so wrapped up thinking in the other direction (eg - bluetooth headphones that can only be paired to one device at a time).

Still, will be good to hear from developer directly.

I'm still a fan of an index card in my tank bag window, but this could be something I would enjoy. I've never wanted, or to date, needed, a GPS when riding, but a route following aid...

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I was so wrapped up thinking in the other direction (eg - bluetooth headphones that can only be paired to one device at a time)..
Well, you know some (maybe most) bluetooth headsets can be paired to multiple devices at a time. I use mine all the time with my phone, my tablet, and my Fire TV stick all at the same time.



Go Technology!

Incidentally this little route aid thing is pretty cool looking and I really thought about it since I do use my phone for navigation all the time while I ride. Mostly I really dig the speedometer/odometer mode. But it's too expensive by a factor of two, which is par for the course for moto-specific gear. For this money I can get a Wear OS smartwatch and stick it on the bars to do the same thing plus way more.

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I've not been able to pair multiple devices to my Sena - I assume there's a strong user-error component here.

I've not been able to pair an iTouch and and iPhone to the Sena and be able to play music from just the iTouch.

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could be the SENA's fault. Or Apple's fault. In my case I've been able to pair multiple Android devices and my MacBook Pro 2 at a time or more to various (not SENA) BT headsets.

Now, given that, maybe the SENA won't work if you pair something else. Have you successfully paired something like, say, a keyboard, game controller, or smartwatch with your phone along with the SENA? I mean just for testing... you probably would never ride with a keyboard and a game controller

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