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post #251 of 972 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 07:50 AM
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You have to be careful of those kind of guys on harleys. Every inch of beard probably equates to at least extra torque he's added to his motor. The sport bike rider needs to be very practiced at launching; putting the traction down without spinning the rear wheel or lofting the front, where the harley rider just twists the throttle and lets all those torques on a long chassis do their thing.

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post #252 of 972 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 08:45 AM
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just a quick note. Cycle Trader has 31,849 used Harleys listed...Triumphs? Just a hair over 1300. People are dumping Harleys like crazy. I had a 2011 FatBob. But I got over it. Too heavy and not comfortable for longer rides.
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Harley riders tended to be older guys to begin with and I think many of them are getting too old to wrestle a 700-1000# motorcycle around.
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Harley riders tended to be older guys to begin with and I think many of them are getting too old to wrestle a 700-1000# motorcycle around.
Hell..., I was never young enough to do that!
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just a quick note. Cycle Trader has 31,849 used Harleys listed...Triumphs? Just a hair over 1300. People are dumping Harleys like crazy. I had a 2011 FatBob. But I got over it. Too heavy and not comfortable for longer rides.
It’s not that simple.

Yes, I dislike HD, and was never interested in owning one. But, its troubles, really, are not because of sales. Yes, they are taking dive after dive. But, in US numbers, they sell more than a 100K bikes a year, not to mention overpriced accessories and clothing that no one else comes near, when the no. 1 second brand, Honda, is at 27K. As for Triumph, borderline 9K.

How do you have the big 4, plus European brands making in on staying afloat, and HD posting record losses every year, blows my mind. This is bad management 101.

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post #256 of 972 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 12:54 PM
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My Harley feels like a man's bike and is solid as a rock at high speeds.
It has a great seat bars and peg set up and just makes you feel cool riding it as you listen to that big machine gun sound booming out of your pipes.
Mine handles exactly the same balance as my T100 Bonneville with the center right under your butt.
It feels so straight, composed and "willing" that for an extremely heavy bike (670 lbs) you just climb on, or climb "in" the saddle and immediately feel "at one' with the bike for hours and hours.
Unlike my Bonnie which at 2/3 the weight immediately feels a bit of a "lightweight."
The antique "hot rod" of a V-Twin motor is not a negative for being so old. Instead it is a PLUS because the charm of such a motor design never grows old. You can't get that manly feeling anywhere else.
As for do-rags, pirate gear and all that garbage I never bought into it.
I had my first Harley in 1965 and was into street customs from the start.
My friends were REAL outlaws and not to be messed with.
I simply built bikes and rode them as a "lone wolf" and didn't try to pretend to be a bad a**.
I just loved Harleys.
And Nortons.
As a matter of fact I wouldn't have bought my "new" Triumph T100 Bonneville (2007) except it reminded me NOT of a Triumph but of a Norton. Better frame less flex than the old Bonnies. Bigger stouter motor. Better handling more like a Norton.
I will keep both bikes forever.
Neither can be replaced as "they don't make 'em like that---and they never DID."
It takes a bit of patience and lots of different bars, pegs and seats before you get perfect balance.
After that both machines put your mind in some sort of heavenly manly motorbike "heaven" and rides are so entertaining it isn't funny.
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My Harley feels like a man's bike and is solid as a rock at high speeds.
It has a great seat bars and peg set up and just makes you feel cool riding it as you listen to that big machine gun sound booming out of your pipes.
Mine handles exactly the same balance as my T100 Bonneville with the center right under your butt.
It feels so straight, composed and "willing" that for an extremely heavy bike (670 lbs) you just climb on, or climb "in" the saddle and immediately feel "at one' with the bike for hours and hours.
Unlike my Bonnie which at 2/3 the weight immediately feels a bit of a "lightweight."
The antique "hot rod" of a V-Twin motor is not a negative for being so old. Instead it is a PLUS because the charm of such a motor design never grows old. You can't get that manly feeling anywhere else.
As for do-rags, pirate gear and all that garbage I never bought into it.
I had my first Harley in 1965 and was into street customs from the start.
My friends were REAL outlaws and not to be messed with.
I simply built bikes and rode them as a "lone wolf" and didn't try to pretend to be a bad a**.
I just loved Harleys.
And Nortons.
As a matter of fact I wouldn't have bought my "new" Triumph T100 Bonneville (2007) except it reminded me NOT of a Triumph but of a Norton. Better frame less flex than the old Bonnies. Bigger stouter motor. Better handling more like a Norton.
I will keep both bikes forever.
Neither can be replaced as "they don't make 'em like that---and they never DID."
It takes a bit of patience and lots of different bars, pegs and seats before you get perfect balance.
After that both machines put your mind in some sort of heavenly manly motorbike "heaven" and rides are so entertaining it isn't funny.
Just My two cents.

A “man’s manly motorcycle” huh? Well, HD deserves where they are heading with that attitude they still promote. I’m glad I don’t a have it.
“Real outlaws?” If that’s the case, all of us would be better of with them in jail, where they belong. What the hell, idolizing someone who brakes the law?
What a joke.

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My Storm sucks the paint off all Harleys and Buells...........
Glad you like your bike but with a 13.37 quarter mile run topping out at 101.17 mph it's not going to strike fear into somebody with a 1200cc Buell or probably the Screaming Chicken Harleys.
If you ever encounter an 1125cc Buell don't even think of it, an EBR would be even more humiliating.
Those Rotax motors make an awful lot of power.
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A “man’s manly motorcycle” huh? Well, HD deserves where they are heading with that attitude they still promote. I’m glad I don’t a have it.
“Real outlaws?” If that’s the case, all of us would be better of with them in jail, where they belong. What the hell, idolizing someone who brakes the law?
What a joke.

"Outlaws" come in all stripes.
Some are (or WERE) pretty nasty.
And some were classy.
Just like everybody else.
Most of the Outlaws I knew are long ago dead by now---so don't be afraid, you're SAFE.
As for "braking" the law to be a free fun loving person, well, SOMEBODY has to do it.
Obviously NOT you!
You better rid yourself of your Triumph before someone mistakes you for a freedom loving rebel.
Or a "manly man."
OMG---the HORROR!

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