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post #1151 of 1185 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 09:02 AM
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I see it your way Steve. I'm on a tour and stopped for a sandwich at Bubba's BBQ Shack somewhere in southern Missouri. I got a rib sandwich and some chips, and including in the price apparently is Bubba's wife sits down with you to keep the company while you eat.

She and Bubba work too hard to get to ride too often, but every year they take their HD trike down to Daytona. Huge crowd last year she said, hundred thousand people. Lord, that is my antidote to fun. But those two love it. And how can you say they don't have a great bike, they love it.

A while back around here I said all bikes were awesome, except for Honda's Pacific Coast. Saw a review for it once comparing it to a plastic porta potty. But someone corrected me, and pointed me to some guy that had ridden ten thousand million miles on his Pacific Coast and another guy who's been to the top of Everest on his or some damn thing, I forget the details. Point being, I was wrong, that's a good one too.


And people have completed the iron butt rally on a scooter, but they were not the outright winner.

I am sure there are riders of the PCH, they certainly sold a few of them. But as someone once said, “life is too short to ride boring motorcycles”. To me, the PCH is just such a motorcycle. I also think it is ugly.

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And people have completed the iron butt rally on a scooter, but they were not the outright winner.

I am sure there are riders of the PCH, they certainly sold a few of them. But as someone once said, “life is too short to ride boring motorcycles”. To me, the PCH is just such a motorcycle. I also think it is ugly.
Well then, you probably shouldn't buy one.

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Well then, you probably shouldn't buy one.


My reply was in response to your comment about someone “correcting you”. Regardless of how many like them or put millions of miles on them, not everyone is going to like them, and the “plastic porta potty” comment was correct for that reviewer.

I enjoy riding motorcycles very much, but not all of them, regardless of what someone else may have accomplished with it.

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One of the guys at work got his dream bike, a Heritage Softail, a few years ago and uses it to bar hop and bomb around on. It's in really nice shape, he takes really good care of it. Lots of chrome and evil skulls and that kind of stuff. He just loves that bike.

Yesterday a car shot out to cut him off during a turn, he jumped on the front brake with the bars turned and around 700 pounds of Harley landed on top of him and he just got crunched. Broken hip, wrist, all sorts of stuff.
He DID make sure to let us know that the bike was okay!
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One of the guys at work got his dream bike, a Heritage Softail, a few years ago and uses it to bar hop and bomb around on. It's in really nice shape, he takes really good care of it. Lots of chrome and evil skulls and that kind of stuff. He just loves that bike.

Yesterday a car shot out to cut him off during a turn, he jumped on the front brake with the bars turned and around 700 pounds of Harley landed on top of him and he just got crunched. Broken hip, wrist, all sorts of stuff.
He DID make sure to let us know that the bike was okay!
The time is now. If you ask just the right way in the right tone, you might get that bike for a steal. Do it wrong though, and he'll figure out you're trying to capitalize on his pain. 🙂
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Knowing me I already posted a picture of it on this thread, but one of our members from Alaska has a heritage Softail in green that is one of the most gorgeous bikes I've ever seen. No floorboards on it.

I'd have to be pretty rich with a pretty big garage before it made my list of motorcycles to buy, but still, I like to look at it.
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Well, I like motorcycles, and Triumph and Harley Davidson have been my favourite two brands, I think its not just Harley but a lot of the motorcycle makers and especially the Japanese are suffering with sales.

The hate Harley Davidson get I understand, I used to be the same, the fake image, the snobby owners, the huge price tags when you can buy something similar for much less money, yeah I get it.

But then I worked with a guy who owned Harley's, wasn't a snob and didn't buy into the pirate image (as some people put it). And would bring his Harley Sportster into work, so I had a go and to be honest liked it but wasn't sold as it was an old 883 and felt gutless, from then on I kept looking at Harley Davidson's and thought lets buy one and see if I like it?, so I bought a XL1200C it was in good condition but did play up every now and then, I was also hooked.

The thing is second hand bikes are only as reliable as the previous owner's cared for them, I have found this with all brand's more so with Harley Davidson motorcycle's, buy one that been sat up for most of its life, expect problems, buy one that's been ridden most of it life but not looked after, expect problems.

I now own a M8 Sport glide, and Harley have really got things right with the soft tails, they handle well, very good quality and the engine is lively and the prices may seem bad, but I ask anyone who says that "have you looked around the other brands prices, they ain't cheap neither ", I got my Sport glide for £14,500 it came with everything I wanted (except rack on back) and I know that once the first hit on price for buying new is gone it really won't loose much after that.
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So, I have avoided this thread for quite some time. The title alone is enough to get folks into heated debate. And Harley Davidson can be a lot like politics or religion, people have a preset belief set in stone and are only looking to reinforce that belief and force their opinions on others. These topics rarely develop into interesting, informative discussion.

But I have to admit many of you have pleasantly surprised me and have stayed above the mud pit (as easy as it can be to jump right in!). And therefore I feel compelled to add to the discussion.

I started on Harley's. My first bike was a Sportster 883. I bought it new in 1995 when I was 27. I had never ridden, nor even driven a manual transmission. I had a few challenges ahead of me. And that XLH883 treated me well, forgiving my ignorance and teaching me a joy for riding. I can still remember my first few rides. Man, that excitement was addictive!

I traded it for a Road King a year later and started down the path of everything I owned having the bar and shield on it. I was saved a few years later when curiosity born of my German riding buddies telling me about their sportbike days caused me to add a CBR600 to my stable. After a few rides on that Honda I no longer wanted to be a biker, but rather a motorcyclist.

The CBR was followed by a Triumph and an Aprilia, and there was another Sportster in there as well, until I settled into the Triumph fan that I am today (mostly because I can't afford to own enough motorcycles to have all the manufacturers I want).

The motorcycle market is fickle. The Motor Company will face challenges from time to time, but so will the other manufacturers. Triumph in recent years has struggled with dealer relationships. It will get past that. And Harley will get past its own challenges. The new batch of motorcycles coming in 2020 suggest HD recognizes it needs to get away from the overweight, air-cooled behemoth as its sole product. There will always be some market for the tradition Harley but I think that segment will slowly shrink as the current generation ages. Personally, I am curious to see what The Motor Company looks like five or ten years from now.
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....The CBR was followed by a Triumph and an Aprilia, and there was another Sportster in there as well, until I settled into the Triumph fan that I am today (mostly because I can't afford to own enough motorcycles to have all the manufacturers I want)....
I'm sure your Rocket III had something to do with not getting another Harley.
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