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post #1 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-02-2015, 04:55 PM Thread Starter
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Beware new tyres!

We all know about scrubbing in new tyres, maybe it was the excitement of getting out on my bike, first time in months, but first junction after leaving garage I pull away and the front wheel just goes, and I'm down.
Only the second time out with my expensive Rizoma mirrors. Minor damage to mirror, Oberon bar end weight and foot peg, brake peddle, silencer, indicator and headlight rim and I'm still suffering, three days later. So learn from my mistake and beware those new tyres!
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I have been roasted before for this opinion, but it's still unchanged, so I'll say it again. I think tyres companies & retail outlets are leaving themselves wide open to litigation by selling the public a product that's unsafe to use when first purchased. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to make their product safe, & if that's what they intend, they should thoroughly explain the process that makes their product safe. Not just a throw away line of "Be careful on them till they're scrubbed in Mate." When they give you back your bike. Personally I think it's the responsibility of the tyre company to sell a legal roadworthy product from the point of purchase. & if I'm ever unfortunate enough to do expensive damage &/or serious injury from one of their slippery tyres, I'll be going to see my Solicitor

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Sorry to hear of your off. It is never nice

I have 8 kilometres of excellent corners between my tyre place and my home. I just progressive push it through the corners until I get home. Tyres are then scrubbed in

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...bummer about your off. Could it be the brand? Or those quality bituminous British roads?
Last two sets I've had I just drove and never thought about it. Maybe I didn't hit a corner
in the first mile or so? Lot's of variables. In the end, it stinks that you are laying in the
road wondering what happened?
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How timely, I just put a new foot peg on my Trident this week.
I sold the bike to a mate, he bought a new tyre, heard the warning from the tyre shop, and failed to make to the other side of the road!
For 15 odd years it's had half a peg

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Although I accept it was totally my fault, just jumped on the bike and rode of as normal, without thinking, be careful be careful, new tyres.
The fact remains that the bike was safer to ride to the garage than when I left the garage, therefore I agree with everything Old Scratcher says, but I won't be seeing a solicitor, I'll just put it down to experience.
I had Pirelli sport demon fitted, same as before, so don't think brand was the issue, probably just over exuberance on new tyres.
Still, never mind, there's worse things happen.
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I have been roasted before for this opinion, but it's still unchanged, so I'll say it again. I think tyres companies & retail outlets are leaving themselves wide open to litigation by selling the public a product that's unsafe to use when first purchased. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to make their product safe, & if that's what they intend, they should thoroughly explain the process that makes their product safe. Not just a throw away line of "Be careful on them till they're scrubbed in Mate." When they give you back your bike. Personally I think it's the responsibility of the tyre company to sell a legal roadworthy product from the point of purchase. & if I'm ever unfortunate enough to do expensive damage &/or serious injury from one of their slippery tyres, I'll be going to see my Solicitor
This is NOT an attempt to roast anyone.

I'm not going to say that your thoughts on the subject have no merit, but I'd like to know if there's a solution that you have in mind besides litigation after the fact.

Because I lack sufficient technical knowledge of tyre engineering, I can think of only two possible outcomes from the enforcement of your position.

Tyres will be sold without any "break in" requirement, but their ultimate performance will be degraded either by reduced mileage or diminished maximum adhesion.

Tires for motorcycles will be too risky for sale for street use and will either become much more expensive or simply unavailable.

Are there other alternatives?

I'm not one of those who drones on complaining about the "nanny state" but as long as the dangers are known, I'm willing to accept responsibility for my own mistakes.
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fuknKIWI, I never had that warning from the tyre fitter (although I new anyway) but if he had just said "don' forget to scrub them in" then it would have logged in my brain and I think I would have been fine.
SlowPocono, could it be as simple as a light rub over with sandpaper, or is that just silly!
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"SlowPocono, could it be as simple as a light rub over with sandpaper, or is that just silly!"

I've thought this to maybe with a sander and 80 grit sandpaper. Check this out:

http://www.sportrider.com/how-to-pro...arm-your-tires
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I have been roasted before for this opinion, but it's still unchanged, so I'll say it again. I think tyres companies & retail outlets are leaving themselves wide open to litigation by selling the public a product that's unsafe to use when first purchased. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to make their product safe, & if that's what they intend, they should thoroughly explain the process that makes their product safe. Not just a throw away line of "Be careful on them till they're scrubbed in Mate." When they give you back your bike. Personally I think it's the responsibility of the tyre company to sell a legal roadworthy product from the point of purchase. & if I'm ever unfortunate enough to do expensive damage &/or serious injury from one of their slippery tyres, I'll be going to see my Solicitor
If tyre shops and tyre manufactures are required to take liability for the first miles from tyre change then we could see tyres become even more expensive. We ride motorcycles and we take the risks. I prefer the customer take it easy after mounting new tyres than the industry taking the risk. Tyres are already stupid expensive.

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